
Building customizable ergonomic keyboards (Interview)
09/12/24 • 100 min
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Erez Zukerman shares the story of launching the ErgoDox EZ on Indiegogo (May 2015), what it takes to create customizable ergonomic keyboards, the benefits of split keyboards and custom key layouts, repairability and longevity, community engagement, and the attention to detail required in everything they create. We talk through their keyboard lineup, our personal experience with how we mouse and keyboard...we cover it all.
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Featuring:
- Erez Zukerman – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- ErgoDox EZ
- Changelog Interviews #582: We have a right to repair! with Kyle Wiens (iFixit)
- FairPhone
- ZSA.io
- DIY trackpad for the Voyager
- How to spray paint your keyboard
- ZSA cards
- Linus Tech Tips - Ergodox EZ Review
- Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Keyboard
- Pagat.com - A website dedicated to cards and card games.
- Ergodox EZ on Indiegogo
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Erez Zukerman shares the story of launching the ErgoDox EZ on Indiegogo (May 2015), what it takes to create customizable ergonomic keyboards, the benefits of split keyboards and custom key layouts, repairability and longevity, community engagement, and the attention to detail required in everything they create. We talk through their keyboard lineup, our personal experience with how we mouse and keyboard...we cover it all.
Changelog++ members get a bonus 15 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today!
Sponsors:
- Sentry – Code breaks, fix it faster. Don’t just observe. Take action. Sentry is the only app monitoring platform built for developers that gets to the root cause for every issue. 100,000+ growing teams use sentry to find problems fast. Use the code CHANGELOG when you sign up to get $100 OFF the team plan.
- Paragon – Ship native integrations to production in days with more than 130 pre-built connectors, or configure your own custom integrations. Built for product and engineering. Learn more at useparagon.com/changelog
- Coder.com – Instantly launch fully configured cloud development environments (CDE) and make your first commit in minutes. No need to traverse README files or await onboarding queues. Learn more at Coder.com
- Test Double – Find out more about Test Double’s software investment problem solvers at testdouble.com.
Featuring:
- Erez Zukerman – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- ErgoDox EZ
- Changelog Interviews #582: We have a right to repair! with Kyle Wiens (iFixit)
- FairPhone
- ZSA.io
- DIY trackpad for the Voyager
- How to spray paint your keyboard
- ZSA cards
- Linus Tech Tips - Ergodox EZ Review
- Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Keyboard
- Pagat.com - A website dedicated to cards and card games.
- Ergodox EZ on Indiegogo
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source - Building customizable ergonomic keyboards (Interview)
Transcript
So we're here with Erez Zukerman, who makes an amazing family of ergonomic keyboards. Welcome to the show, Erez.
Erez Zukerman:Thank you. Happy to be here.
Jerod Santo:I guess we should start with ergonomics in the first place, because Adam and I are both admiring the keyboards you all make, and they're so cool, and we'll get into all the details of these things. And Adam says to me,
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