
The Autoimmune Wellness Podcast Episode #15: Step 7: In-Depth with Angelo Coppola
10/13/16 • 37 min
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Welcome to The Autoimmune Wellness Podcast Season 1! We’ve created this podcast as a free resource to accompany our upcoming book, The Autoimmune Wellness Handbook: A DIY Guide to Living Well with Chronic Illness.
Episode #15: Step 7: In-Depth with Angelo Coppola is an episode with a popular, and very unique voice, in the wider Paleo community about how connection with others and nature deeply impacts not just our wellness, but our whole lives. Angelo discusses leaving his high-powered career to focus on family and his place in the natural world, his philosophy of “humans are not broken,” and exploring how removing some things from his life actually expanded it greatly. He also talks with us about a really refreshing view he has about not seeing our bodies, especially those with autoimmune disease, as broken, but seeing disease as warning signs of environmental inputs that need to change. Angelo also explores with us the relationship humans have to the natural world (his take is that we are nature) and his ideas about “ambient anxiety.” This is a great episode for anyone who wants to think about connection in a whole new light.
If you want to explore some of our conversation more, take a look at the “How to Start Connecting with Nature” section in Chapter 7. This section provides ideas on getting started with simple connection to nature.
How to listen:
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Show Notes:
- 0:00 Intro
- 2:00 Introducing Angelo
- 2:30 Angelo shares about how his connections changed after he left his high-powered career
- He feels those connections actually helped him connect more to himself
- 6:09 What it felt like when Angelo made the decision to shift his lifestyle
- He is always focused on “tweaking in the right direction,” rather than perfectionism in his life
- 10:00 What is Angelo’s philosophy “humans are not broken?”
- Be careful of the often used marketing idea that you are inadequate
- Explore the idea that you may need to reduce, rather than increase in life
- 14:30 Angelo discusses how we can reject the idea that our bodies are broken, but instead consider environmental inputs that may be negative
- 16:00 Angelo shares his view that humans and nature are not in relationship
- He believes we are the same as nature
- He shares his great quote, “Our modern lives are a dumbing down of nature.”
- 22:20 The key components that Angelo sees as contributing to autoimmune disease
- Diet
- Lack of “baked right in” natural experiences
- 28:08 “Ambient Anxiety” and whether or not we should look for an anxiety to it?
- Angelo suggests seeing stress/anxiety as a pain response pointing to a root cause
- 36:00 Outro
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In order to support our blogging activities, we may receive monetary compensation or other types or remuneration for our endorsement, recommendation, testimonial, and/or link to any products or services from this blog.That being said, we only promote authors, products, and services that we wholeheartedly stand by!
Welcome to The Autoimmune Wellness Podcast Season 1! We’ve created this podcast as a free resource to accompany our upcoming book, The Autoimmune Wellness Handbook: A DIY Guide to Living Well with Chronic Illness.
Episode #15: Step 7: In-Depth with Angelo Coppola is an episode with a popular, and very unique voice, in the wider Paleo community about how connection with others and nature deeply impacts not just our wellness, but our whole lives. Angelo discusses leaving his high-powered career to focus on family and his place in the natural world, his philosophy of “humans are not broken,” and exploring how removing some things from his life actually expanded it greatly. He also talks with us about a really refreshing view he has about not seeing our bodies, especially those with autoimmune disease, as broken, but seeing disease as warning signs of environmental inputs that need to change. Angelo also explores with us the relationship humans have to the natural world (his take is that we are nature) and his ideas about “ambient anxiety.” This is a great episode for anyone who wants to think about connection in a whole new light.
If you want to explore some of our conversation more, take a look at the “How to Start Connecting with Nature” section in Chapter 7. This section provides ideas on getting started with simple connection to nature.
How to listen:
If you’d like to have our podcasts sent directly to your device, subscribe on iTunes or Stitcher!
If you’d like to download the .mp3, you can do so by following this link.
If you’d like to play the episode right now in your browser, use the player below!
Show Notes:
- 0:00 Intro
- 2:00 Introducing Angelo
- 2:30 Angelo shares about how his connections changed after he left his high-powered career
- He feels those connections actually helped him connect more to himself
- 6:09 What it felt like when Angelo made the decision to shift his lifestyle
- He is always focused on “tweaking in the right direction,” rather than perfectionism in his life
- 10:00 What is Angelo’s philosophy “humans are not broken?”
- Be careful of the often used marketing idea that you are inadequate
- Explore the idea that you may need to reduce, rather than increase in life
- 14:30 Angelo discusses how we can reject the idea that our bodies are broken, but instead consider environmental inputs that may be negative
- 16:00 Angelo shares his view that humans and nature are not in relationship
- He believes we are the same as nature
- He shares his great quote, “Our modern lives are a dumbing down of nature.”
- 22:20 The key components that Angelo sees as contributing to autoimmune disease
- Diet
- Lack of “baked right in” natural experiences
- 28:08 “Ambient Anxiety” and whether or not we should look for an anxiety to it?
- Angelo suggests seeing stress/anxiety as a pain response pointing to a root cause
- 36:00 Outro
Wait–before you go!
If you enjoyed the podcast, would you mind leaving us a review in iTunes? This helps introduce our work to a new audience as we climb the ranks in their system.
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The Autoimmune Wellness Podcast Episode #14: Step 7: Connect – Our Stories
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Welcome to The Autoimmune Wellness Podcast Season 1! We’ve created this podcast as a free resource to accompany our upcoming book, The Autoimmune Wellness Handbook: A DIY Guide to Living Well with Chronic Illness.
Episode #14: Step 7: Connect – Our Stories is an episode all about an often unexplored, but vitally important, piece of the healing process, connection. In this episode we talk not only about connection with other people and its role in healing, but connection with the natural world. We start with a chat about how our illnesses initially impacted our support networks, how things changed after diagnosis and when realization that this was chronic set-in. We address the awkward, depressing, and often stressful truth behind trying to articulate the experience of autoimmune disease to those close to us, plus how the experience can expose weaknesses in our connections with others. We also talk about transitioning our social lives to support healing, finding new connections through online support, and avoiding the trap of adopting illness as an identity. Next we move on to exploring the role connection with nature had in our recoveries and wrap up with ways to experience the benefits of that connection even when you can’t get out in the woods regularly. This episode is a great match for listeners that are wondering if the strain illness has taken on their “people” connections is normal or what they can do to enhance their nature connections.
If you want to dig in check-out the ideas in the “Building a Support Network” section in Chapter 7. This is a good place to help you get the gears turning about forming or strengthening relationships, if it feels like this area could use some attention for you.
How to listen:
If you’d like to have our podcasts sent directly to your device, subscribe on iTunes or Stitcher!
If you’d like to download the .mp3, you can do so by following this link.
If you’d like to play the episode right now in your browser, use the player below!
Show Notes:
- 0:00 Intro
- 1:31 Introducing the Connect topic
- 2:26 Angie shares about what her support network was like early in her journey
- Strong, but confused
- 5:26 Mickey shares about what her support network was like early in her journey
- Strong, but tense
- 7:50 Mickey talks about key relationships that were under stress due to her illness
- 9:17 We don’t have rituals for acknowledging chronic illness in our society
- 10:18 The awkward and depressing side of discussing your autoimmune disease
- 11:18 The importance of adding people who “get it” on a personal level to your support network
- 12:29 Mickey’s social life now
- 13:26 Angie shares about transitioning her social life to support healing
- Working to inspire others to support her choices by projecting confidence about her journey
- 15:54 Mickey shares about avoiding long explanations with all but the most important people
- 17:48 Mickey shares about connections she found online
- She was looking for empowered people
- 19:30 Angie shares about connections she found online
- Her virtual relationships turned into real world connections
- 21:25 How to avoid adopting illness as our identities
- Consider ways autoimmune disease has expanded your life
- Consider how it could actually shut you off from connection with others
- Consider meeting new ...
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The Autoimmune Wellness Podcast Episode #16: Putting Together The Steps of the Autoimmune Wellness Journey
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Welcome to The Autoimmune Wellness Podcast Season 1! We’ve created this podcast as a free resource to accompany our upcoming book, The Autoimmune Wellness Handbook: A DIY Guide to Living Well with Chronic Illness.
Episode #16: Putting Together the Steps of The Autoimmune Wellness Journey starts with a look at how our personal healing timelines unfolded. We discuss how long each of the seven steps; inform, collaborate, nourish, rest, breathe, move, and connect, took us to implement as we sought wellness. The second half of this episode is about the “big idea” we are hoping to convey with the book and podcast series, the ebb and flow nature of a healing with autoimmune disease, ditching perfectionism, and shifting what we see as “normal” in order to focus on health. The very best part of this episode comes in the last 15 minutes where we share loads of inspiration on joining the community.
If you’d like to go more in-depth, check out the “Conclusion” section at the end of The Autoimmune Wellness Handbook. It will help solidify this exciting, renewing process for you and add depth to our chat during this episode.
How to listen:
If you’d like to have our podcasts sent directly to your device, subscribe on iTunes or Stitcher!
If you’d like to download the .mp3, you can do so by following this link.
If you’d like to play the episode right now in your browser, use the player below!
Show Notes:
- 0:00 Intro
- 1:30 Welcome to the final episode
- 2:57 We talk about “healing timelines”
- 3:29 Mickey shares how long the Inform step took her
- One year
- 5:14 Angie shares how long the Inform step took her
- 11 years (She had a complex situation.)
- 6:36 Angie shares how long the Collaborate step took her
- One-two years
- 7:44 Mickey shares how long the Collaborate step took her
- She’s still working this step
- 10:22 Mickey shares how long the Nourish step took her
- Three-six months
- 11:28 Angie shares how long the Nourish step took her
- Overnight
- 12:32 Angie shares how long the Rest step took her
- Roughly one year, but there were big improvements immediately with dietary changes
- 13:37 Mickey shares how long the Rest step took her
- Roughly a couple months with a breakthrough following some neurotransmitter testing and supplementation
- Has required continual maintenance
- 15:31 Mickey shares how long the Breathe step took her
- She’s still working this step
- 16:13 Angie shares how long the Breathe step took her
- She’s still working this step, but there were big improvements immediately with diagnosis, because unexplained illness was a major source of stress
- 17:50 Mickey shares how long the Move step took her
- She had a routine within one month, but it took longer for her to transition the way she thought of it
- 19:21 Angie shares how long the Move step took her
- She’s still working on this step
- 20:33 Angie shares how long the Connect step took her
- She was able to dial in this step immediately
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