
Talking the Supreme Court's blockbuster church-state case with law professor Michael A. Helfand
05/11/23 • 30 min
0:00 Introduction
0:40 The indictment of Rep. George Santos
2:55 The Orthodox community confronts a young suicide
9:30 Interview with Michael Helfand
25:45 - 29:00 Recommendations and closing
On the May 11 episode of “That Jewish News Show,” Laura E. Adkins and Benyamin Cohen of the Forward discuss the indictment of George Santos, the death of 25 year-old Herschel Siegel, and a Supreme Court case that could make it easier for Jewish Americans — and other Sabbath-observers — to receive religious accommodations from their employers. The hosts were joined by Michael A. Helfand, an expert in religious law and liberty, to discuss Groff v. DeJoy.
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Referenced articles, books and music:
George Santos’ Indictment:
“Congressman-elect George Santos lied about grandparents fleeing anti-Jewish persecution during WWII” by Andrew Silverstein in the Forward
“The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos” by Mark Chiusano
“‘He needs to go’: Long Island Jews react to George Santos’ indictment” by Jacob Kornbluh in the Forward
The Death of Herschel Siegel:
"A young gay Orthodox man died by suicide. We must confront how Jewish teachings harmed him” by Mordechai Levovitz in the Forward
Letter: “Herschel Siegel was embraced by our Atlanta Orthodox community” by Jennifer Marks in the Forward
Letter: “I knew Herschel Siegel for his entire life. Don’t exploit his death for an agenda” by David Schoen in the Forward
“Yeshiva University is left in mourning after a beloved gay alum dies by suicide” by Jacob Henry in the New York Jewish Week
“My friend Herschel Siegel died by suicide. Politicizing his death doesn’t help gay Jews” by Simon Italiaander in the Forward
“NY appeals court agrees Yeshiva University must recognize LGBTQ club” by Louis Keene in the Forward
Interview with Michael Helfand on Groff v. DeJoy:
“A new case before the Supreme Court could make Shabbat observance easier” by Michael A. Helfand in the Forward
0:00 Introduction
0:40 The indictment of Rep. George Santos
2:55 The Orthodox community confronts a young suicide
9:30 Interview with Michael Helfand
25:45 - 29:00 Recommendations and closing
On the May 11 episode of “That Jewish News Show,” Laura E. Adkins and Benyamin Cohen of the Forward discuss the indictment of George Santos, the death of 25 year-old Herschel Siegel, and a Supreme Court case that could make it easier for Jewish Americans — and other Sabbath-observers — to receive religious accommodations from their employers. The hosts were joined by Michael A. Helfand, an expert in religious law and liberty, to discuss Groff v. DeJoy.
We want to hear from you! Leave a review below and email [email protected] with your questions and comments. You can also text or call us at (201) 228-0412.
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Subscribe to the Forward’s free daily newsletters at forward.com/newsletters
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Referenced articles, books and music:
George Santos’ Indictment:
“Congressman-elect George Santos lied about grandparents fleeing anti-Jewish persecution during WWII” by Andrew Silverstein in the Forward
“The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos” by Mark Chiusano
“‘He needs to go’: Long Island Jews react to George Santos’ indictment” by Jacob Kornbluh in the Forward
The Death of Herschel Siegel:
"A young gay Orthodox man died by suicide. We must confront how Jewish teachings harmed him” by Mordechai Levovitz in the Forward
Letter: “Herschel Siegel was embraced by our Atlanta Orthodox community” by Jennifer Marks in the Forward
Letter: “I knew Herschel Siegel for his entire life. Don’t exploit his death for an agenda” by David Schoen in the Forward
“Yeshiva University is left in mourning after a beloved gay alum dies by suicide” by Jacob Henry in the New York Jewish Week
“My friend Herschel Siegel died by suicide. Politicizing his death doesn’t help gay Jews” by Simon Italiaander in the Forward
“NY appeals court agrees Yeshiva University must recognize LGBTQ club” by Louis Keene in the Forward
Interview with Michael Helfand on Groff v. DeJoy:
“A new case before the Supreme Court could make Shabbat observance easier” by Michael A. Helfand in the Forward
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Talking Netflix's 'Jewish Matchmaking' with its star, Aleeza Ben Shalom
0:00 Introduction
1:00 - American Jewish Heritage Month and End Jew Hatred Day
7:15 - Interview with Aleeza Ben Shalom, the host of “Jewish Matchmaking” on Netflix
28:00 - Recommendations and closing
On the May 1, 2023 episode of “That Jewish News Show,” Laura E. Adkins and Benyamin Cohen of the Forward discuss the pros and cons of Jewish American Heritage Month and End Jew Hatred Day. They were joined by Aleeza Ben Shalom, star of Netflix’s “Jewish Matchmaking,” to discuss the reality series and all things Jewish dating.
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Referenced articles, books and music:
American Jewish Heritage Month and End Jew Hatred Day:
A Proclamation on Jewish American Heritage Month, 2023
“Council OKs ‘End Jew Hatred Day,’ minus 6 votes” by Jacob Kornbluh in the Forward
https://forward.com/fast-forward/544960/new-york-city-council-end-jew-hatred-day-antisemitism/
JFREJ critique of ‘End Jew Hatred Day’ on Twitter
https://twitter.com/JFREJNYC/status/1652020938114842624?s=20
Recommendations:
Laura: The Jewpanese Oral History Project
https://www.carmeltanaka.ca/initiatives/jewpanese-oral-history-project
Benyamin: The Man Who Stole Einstein’s Brain
https://hotdocs.ca/whats-on/hot-docs-festival/films/2023/man-who-stole-einsteins-brain
“That Jewish News Show” is a thoughtful look at the week in Jewish news from journalists at the Forward, which has been driving the American Jewish conversation since 1897. In each episode, hosts Laura E. Adkins, the opinion editor, and Benyamin Cohen, the news director, bring you beyond the headlines and interview the newsmakers behind those stories.
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George Santos, Elon Musk, Rudy Giuliani, Nazi memorabilia and more
0:00 Introduction
2:10 News of the week
12:20 Interview with Mark Chiusano
31:00 Recommendations and closing
On the May 17, 2023 episode of “That Jewish News Show,” Laura E. Adkins and Benyamin Cohen of the Forward discuss Elon Musk’s Magneto tweets, Nazi memorabilia (including Zyklon B!) that’s going to auction, and Rudy Giuliani’s latest shocking (and...weird?) antisemitism.
They were joined by Mark Chiusano, reporter at Newsday and author of the forthcoming The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos, to discuss the myriad scandals and recent indictment of Rep. George Santos on 13 criminal counts “for various alleged fraudulent schemes and brazen misrepresentations.”
“It’s kind of a psychological study and a bit of a grifter thriller of: how did this man continue to keep hustling even when he knew eventually he was going to get caught,” Chiusano said of his forthcoming book.
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Referenced articles, books and music:
Elon Musk’s Magneto tweets:
• “Elon Musk doesn’t understand George Soros — or Magneto — but he’s great at antisemitism” by P.J. Grisar in the Forward
“AIPAC accused George Soros of undermining American politics. Is that antisemitic?” by Emily Tamkin in the Forward
Nazi memorabilia goes to auction:
“Holocaust items, including Zyklon B can and concentration camp patch, listed for auction” by Arno Rosenfeld in the Forward
Rudy Giuliani does an antisemitism:
• “Rudy Giuliani made antisemitic remarks about Jews’ genitalia, mocked ‘freaking Passover’ observance, new lawsuit claims” by Jacob Kornbluh in the Forward
Interview with Mark Chiusano:
• “Andrew Raia has a new challenger” by Mark Chiusano in Newsday (paywall)
“Who Is Rep.-Elect George Santos? His Résumé May Be Largely Fiction.” by Grace Ashford and Michael Gold in The New York Times
• “The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos” by Mark Chiusano (out Nov. 28, 2023)
Recommendations:
Laura: “How Magneto Became Jewish” by Abraham Josefine Reisman in Vulture, 2019
Benyamin: “Still: A Michael J. Fox Movie” on Apple TV
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