
George Santos, Elon Musk, Rudy Giuliani, Nazi memorabilia and more
05/17/23 • 34 min
0:00 Introduction
2:10 News of the week
12:20 Interview with Mark Chiusano
31:00 Recommendations and closing
On the May 17, 2023 episode of “That Jewish News Show,” Laura E. Adkins and Benyamin Cohen of the Forward discuss Elon Musk’s Magneto tweets, Nazi memorabilia (including Zyklon B!) that’s going to auction, and Rudy Giuliani’s latest shocking (and...weird?) antisemitism.
They were joined by Mark Chiusano, reporter at Newsday and author of the forthcoming The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos, to discuss the myriad scandals and recent indictment of Rep. George Santos on 13 criminal counts “for various alleged fraudulent schemes and brazen misrepresentations.”
“It’s kind of a psychological study and a bit of a grifter thriller of: how did this man continue to keep hustling even when he knew eventually he was going to get caught,” Chiusano said of his forthcoming book.
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Referenced articles, books and music:
Elon Musk’s Magneto tweets:
• “Elon Musk doesn’t understand George Soros — or Magneto — but he’s great at antisemitism” by P.J. Grisar in the Forward
“AIPAC accused George Soros of undermining American politics. Is that antisemitic?” by Emily Tamkin in the Forward
Nazi memorabilia goes to auction:
“Holocaust items, including Zyklon B can and concentration camp patch, listed for auction” by Arno Rosenfeld in the Forward
Rudy Giuliani does an antisemitism:
• “Rudy Giuliani made antisemitic remarks about Jews’ genitalia, mocked ‘freaking Passover’ observance, new lawsuit claims” by Jacob Kornbluh in the Forward
Interview with Mark Chiusano:
• “Andrew Raia has a new challenger” by Mark Chiusano in Newsday (paywall)
“Who Is Rep.-Elect George Santos? His Résumé May Be Largely Fiction.” by Grace Ashford and Michael Gold in The New York Times
• “The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos” by Mark Chiusano (out Nov. 28, 2023)
Recommendations:
Laura: “How Magneto Became Jewish” by Abraham Josefine Reisman in Vulture, 2019
Benyamin: “Still: A Michael J. Fox Movie” on Apple TV
0:00 Introduction
2:10 News of the week
12:20 Interview with Mark Chiusano
31:00 Recommendations and closing
On the May 17, 2023 episode of “That Jewish News Show,” Laura E. Adkins and Benyamin Cohen of the Forward discuss Elon Musk’s Magneto tweets, Nazi memorabilia (including Zyklon B!) that’s going to auction, and Rudy Giuliani’s latest shocking (and...weird?) antisemitism.
They were joined by Mark Chiusano, reporter at Newsday and author of the forthcoming The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos, to discuss the myriad scandals and recent indictment of Rep. George Santos on 13 criminal counts “for various alleged fraudulent schemes and brazen misrepresentations.”
“It’s kind of a psychological study and a bit of a grifter thriller of: how did this man continue to keep hustling even when he knew eventually he was going to get caught,” Chiusano said of his forthcoming book.
We want to hear from you! Leave a review below and email [email protected] with your questions and comments. You can also text or call us at (201) 228-0412.
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Referenced articles, books and music:
Elon Musk’s Magneto tweets:
• “Elon Musk doesn’t understand George Soros — or Magneto — but he’s great at antisemitism” by P.J. Grisar in the Forward
“AIPAC accused George Soros of undermining American politics. Is that antisemitic?” by Emily Tamkin in the Forward
Nazi memorabilia goes to auction:
“Holocaust items, including Zyklon B can and concentration camp patch, listed for auction” by Arno Rosenfeld in the Forward
Rudy Giuliani does an antisemitism:
• “Rudy Giuliani made antisemitic remarks about Jews’ genitalia, mocked ‘freaking Passover’ observance, new lawsuit claims” by Jacob Kornbluh in the Forward
Interview with Mark Chiusano:
• “Andrew Raia has a new challenger” by Mark Chiusano in Newsday (paywall)
“Who Is Rep.-Elect George Santos? His Résumé May Be Largely Fiction.” by Grace Ashford and Michael Gold in The New York Times
• “The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos” by Mark Chiusano (out Nov. 28, 2023)
Recommendations:
Laura: “How Magneto Became Jewish” by Abraham Josefine Reisman in Vulture, 2019
Benyamin: “Still: A Michael J. Fox Movie” on Apple TV
Previous Episode

Talking the Supreme Court's blockbuster church-state case with law professor Michael A. Helfand
0:00 Introduction
0:40 The indictment of Rep. George Santos
2:55 The Orthodox community confronts a young suicide
9:30 Interview with Michael Helfand
25:45 - 29:00 Recommendations and closing
On the May 11 episode of “That Jewish News Show,” Laura E. Adkins and Benyamin Cohen of the Forward discuss the indictment of George Santos, the death of 25 year-old Herschel Siegel, and a Supreme Court case that could make it easier for Jewish Americans — and other Sabbath-observers — to receive religious accommodations from their employers. The hosts were joined by Michael A. Helfand, an expert in religious law and liberty, to discuss Groff v. DeJoy.
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Referenced articles, books and music:
George Santos’ Indictment:
“Congressman-elect George Santos lied about grandparents fleeing anti-Jewish persecution during WWII” by Andrew Silverstein in the Forward
“The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos” by Mark Chiusano
“‘He needs to go’: Long Island Jews react to George Santos’ indictment” by Jacob Kornbluh in the Forward
The Death of Herschel Siegel:
"A young gay Orthodox man died by suicide. We must confront how Jewish teachings harmed him” by Mordechai Levovitz in the Forward
Letter: “Herschel Siegel was embraced by our Atlanta Orthodox community” by Jennifer Marks in the Forward
Letter: “I knew Herschel Siegel for his entire life. Don’t exploit his death for an agenda” by David Schoen in the Forward
“Yeshiva University is left in mourning after a beloved gay alum dies by suicide” by Jacob Henry in the New York Jewish Week
“My friend Herschel Siegel died by suicide. Politicizing his death doesn’t help gay Jews” by Simon Italiaander in the Forward
“NY appeals court agrees Yeshiva University must recognize LGBTQ club” by Louis Keene in the Forward
Interview with Michael Helfand on Groff v. DeJoy:
“A new case before the Supreme Court could make Shabbat observance easier” by Michael A. Helfand in the Forward
Next Episode

The man who escaped from Auschwitz
0:00 Introduction
2:55 The Biden administration’s plan to combat antisemitism
10:30 Interview with Jonathan Freedland
35:30 - 29:00 Recommendations and closing
On this week's episode of "That Jewish News Show," hosts Laura E. Adkins, the Forward's opinion editor, and Benyamin Cohen, its news director, talk about the Biden administration's comprehensive new plan to combat antisemitism. Plus: They're joined by Jonathan Freedland, a columnist at The Guardian and co-host of the "Unholy" podcast, to talk about his new book, “The Escape Artist: The Man Who Broke Out of Auschwitz to Warn the World,” which won the National Jewish Book Award and recently landed on the New York Times bestseller list.
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Referenced articles, books and music:
News of the Week
- The U.S. National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism
- Israel ‘mudslinging’ threatens to overshadow White House antisemitism strategy by Arno Rosenfeld
- Our hate crime reporting system is broken by Laura E. Adkins
- Doug Emhoff opens up about his Jewishness as he visits his ancestors’ Polish hometown by Laura E. Adkins
- Photos: A somber Holocaust remembrance trip with Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff by Laura E. Adkins
- The federal government is now funding Holocaust education, but does it actually work? by Aiden Pink
- Who won the debate over defining ‘antisemitism’ in new White House report? by Lauren Markoe
Main Interview:
- ‘The Escape Artist: The Man Who Broke Out of Auschwitz to Warn the World’ by Jonathan Freedland
- They fled the hell of Auschwitz, but that was not the only catastrophe they faced by Dan Friedman
- In London, an antisemitism scandal has sparked a play by Jonathan Freedland about antisemitism. Is it helping? by Talya Zax
- ‘Unholy: Two Jews on the News’ podcast
- Jonathan Freedland’s columns at The Guardian
“That Jewish News Show” is a thoughtful look at the week in Jewish news from journalists at the Forward, which has been driving the American Jewish conversation since 1897. In each episode, hosts Laura E. Adkins, the opinion editor, and Benyamin Cohen, the news director, bring you beyond the headlines and interview the newsmakers behind those stories.
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