
7: Trademark & The Cost Of Protecting Your Brand
08/24/20 • 51 min
All professionals will stumble upon the struggle of balancing costs with deductibility. When is the proper time to spend money on your company or product? Will the money spent be beneficial with the return? Branding your company, service, or product is key to obtaining a successful business platform. Sometimes, this process can be costly, but it could potentially cost you more if you choose to ignore it.
Protecting Brand and Trademarks
This week, Kelly brings Kelley Keller, founder and president of the Keller Law Firm which focuses on domestic and intellectual property issues. Kelley discusses the current - and public - trademark dispute that Lady Antebellum faces with Lady A, and what it means for business owners.
Discover the importance of having guidance during the trademark process, learn what to expect both financially and emotionally, and the consequences of protecting your brand.
Listen to Kelly and Kelley Keller discuss:
- Lady Antebellum to Lady A Trademark Conflict
- What Trademarks are Used for
- Trademark Boundaries
- Steps to Take to Avoid Trademark Conflict
- Analyzing if your Piece is Distinctive and Financially Important
- Cost vs. Return
- Consumer Recognition
- Marketing Does not Always Mean Ownership
- Knowing When to Federally Protect your Brand
- Dealing With the Emotional and Financial Sides of Brand Conflict
More About Kelly Phillips Erb:
Kelly is the creator and host of the new Taxgirl podcast series. Kelly is a practicing tax attorney who works with taxpayers like you every day. One of the things that she does is help folks out of tax jams, and hopefully, keep others from getting into them.
Links Mentioned:
Kelly's Website – Taxgirl
Kelley Keller - LinkedIn
All professionals will stumble upon the struggle of balancing costs with deductibility. When is the proper time to spend money on your company or product? Will the money spent be beneficial with the return? Branding your company, service, or product is key to obtaining a successful business platform. Sometimes, this process can be costly, but it could potentially cost you more if you choose to ignore it.
Protecting Brand and Trademarks
This week, Kelly brings Kelley Keller, founder and president of the Keller Law Firm which focuses on domestic and intellectual property issues. Kelley discusses the current - and public - trademark dispute that Lady Antebellum faces with Lady A, and what it means for business owners.
Discover the importance of having guidance during the trademark process, learn what to expect both financially and emotionally, and the consequences of protecting your brand.
Listen to Kelly and Kelley Keller discuss:
- Lady Antebellum to Lady A Trademark Conflict
- What Trademarks are Used for
- Trademark Boundaries
- Steps to Take to Avoid Trademark Conflict
- Analyzing if your Piece is Distinctive and Financially Important
- Cost vs. Return
- Consumer Recognition
- Marketing Does not Always Mean Ownership
- Knowing When to Federally Protect your Brand
- Dealing With the Emotional and Financial Sides of Brand Conflict
More About Kelly Phillips Erb:
Kelly is the creator and host of the new Taxgirl podcast series. Kelly is a practicing tax attorney who works with taxpayers like you every day. One of the things that she does is help folks out of tax jams, and hopefully, keep others from getting into them.
Links Mentioned:
Kelly's Website – Taxgirl
Kelley Keller - LinkedIn
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6: Let’s Talk About Addiction, Mental Illness & Stigma (Yes, Lawyers Have It, Too)
It's been a long and stressful tax season. Mix long hours together with COVID, and there's real worry about mental health for tax professionals. More often than not, one of the barriers to seeking help is stigma: it is difficult for any professional to admit that they are suffering. This week’s episode focuses on the steps you need to take to confront personal mental struggles.
Turning Struggles into Success as a Professional
Joining Kelly this week is Brian Cuban, a lawyer who has faced his share of struggles. Brian is a lawyer, the brother of Mark Cuban (Dallas Mavericks coach), and a famous author. Brian suffered from drug addiction, self-image problems, depression, and childhood trauma. In this episode, Brian shares his struggles. Brian offers stories, resources, and hope as he discusses mental health stigmas as a professional.
Listen to Kelly and Brian Cuban talk about mental health:
- Brian'sHistory with Addiction as a Lawyer
- Ego and Profession Can Get in the way of Recovery
- Finding Your way out of False Functioning
- Identifying a Problem with Consequences and Community
- Generational Change
- Developing and Adapting is a Must
- Brian's Steps to Recovery and Continuing his Profession
- Responsibility, Reconcile and Resilience
More About Kelly Phillips Erb:
Kelly is the creator and host of the new Taxgirl podcast series. Kelly is a practicing tax attorney who works with taxpayers like you every day. One of the things that she does is help folks out of tax jams, and hopefully, keep others from getting into them.
Links Mentioned:
Kelly's Website - Taxgirl
Brian Cuban - LinkedIn
Brian Cuban's Self Image Book - Shattered Image
Addiction and Depression Resources:
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8: What Successful People Have Learned About Money
What's your relationship with money like? Financial challenges are often tied to mental stigma and what we are conditioned to believe about money - even as children. Often, being conditioned to believe a certain way or having expectations about money can lead business owners to carry shame about their current business or financial situations, which can lead to poor business or financial choices. This week’s episode is all about learning to have a relationship with money that allows you to create success.
Solutions for Small Business Struggles or Shames
Joining Kelly this week is Nicole Lewis-Keeber. Nicole is a business therapist and mindset coach who works with entrepreneurs to help them identify and break stigmas that affect their financial choices. In this episode, Kelly and Nicole focus on the struggles of taxpayers and small businesses, where people often go wrong, and how to address those problems. Nicole differentiates between business success and self-success, teaching listeners just how much self-awareness can impact their bottom line.
Listen to Kelly and Nicole discuss:
- Normalizing Uncomfortable Business Situations Socially
- What It Means to Have Money
- How Wealth Impacts Business Choices
- Learning to Have a Healthy Relationship with Money
- Controlling the Narrative and Taking the Steps Towards Change
- How We Allow Taxes/IRS Take Control
- Properly Articulating Needs
- Understanding Excuses Verses Explanations
- Clearing the Conflict on Money for Future Generations
- Business Success Does Not Always Define Self Success
- How Expectations Lead Us to Feelings of Failure
- The Truth About Value and Self-Compassion
More About Kelly Phillips Erb:
Kelly is the creator and host of the new Taxgirl podcast series. Kelly is a practicing tax attorney who works with taxpayers like you every day. One of the things that she does is help folks out of tax jams, and hopefully, keep others from getting into them.
Links Mentioned:
Kelly’s Website – Taxgirl
Nicole Lewis-Keeber - Website
Nicole Lewis-Keeber - Medium Mentor Site
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