
Expect the Unexpected with Dr. Michael Neville!
11/05/18 • 19 min
In his own words, "I laugh when I think back on my view of the world as a young man. I would describe my “purposeful academic journey” like this: Take a stick. Throw it into a stream. Watch where it ends up. I was a kid who thought that those who became valedictorians were just lucky. I barely got into pharmacy school and struggled once I got there, only figuring out what was going on as I was finishing my degree. I just knew I wanted to help people, and so I have."
His prescription for life involves self-care; applying what we preach to our patients to our own lives! Eat well, get outside (with some sunscreen!), and take the extra time in the day to get on your feet and exercise! Sitting is the new smoking in major causes of disease and death in this country so get moving!
In his own words, "I laugh when I think back on my view of the world as a young man. I would describe my “purposeful academic journey” like this: Take a stick. Throw it into a stream. Watch where it ends up. I was a kid who thought that those who became valedictorians were just lucky. I barely got into pharmacy school and struggled once I got there, only figuring out what was going on as I was finishing my degree. I just knew I wanted to help people, and so I have."
His prescription for life involves self-care; applying what we preach to our patients to our own lives! Eat well, get outside (with some sunscreen!), and take the extra time in the day to get on your feet and exercise! Sitting is the new smoking in major causes of disease and death in this country so get moving!
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Two Pills Tips: Teaching Outdoors!
Resources:
https://cft.vanderbilt.edu/2013/04/ask-professor-pedagogy-holding-class-outside/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29425171
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29354083
Who: Small groups, such as experiential students on rotations
What: We’ll do case discussions, SOAP notes, topic discussions, and evaluations outside. We have also done “park rounds” where we walk around the park and discuss teaching topics of rounds. (Nothing patient specific of course).
Where: We have done “park rounds” b/c there was a park across the street from the hospital. For student discussions, we often find ourselves on benches outside the hospital. I enjoy having our discussions near the ambulance bay b/c it shows students a different side of patient care. It shows the role of the EMT and what the patients look like before they’re neatly in their hospital gowns and with lines in.
When: Mine are often in the afternoon when it’s warmest.
How:
-Check your weather app to make sure the weather is cooperating. Students will complain if it’s too cold, too windy, etc. You don’t usually want to make multiple trips.
-There are naturally more distractions outside-don’t expect to straight lecture and have students pay attention to you. Outdoors is best for discussions where all are actively participating.
-Make sure you do not discuss anything patient specific. That should, of course, be a given all over the hospital but especially outdoors. I think having discussions outdoors actually reinforces the importance of patient privacy and HIPAA in my students.
-Be sure to include engaging topics and those that are relatively brief. Attention spans are short, but especially with outdoor distractions. Consider limiting your time to 20-30 mins or less.
-If you want to take outdoor learning to the next level, check out Forest Schools which originated in 1993. These schools are based on Scandinavian principles that emphasize human contact with nature.
Why: We are under fluorescent lights most of the day. Why not get a little Vitamin D and sunshine?
-Author Richard Louv came up with the phrase “nature-defecit disorder”-students have too much indoor stimulation, screen time, etc
-Data studying children in an outdoor curriculum found that they scored higher on assessments in math and science compared to a traditional setting.
Improve recall: Improving recall can come from experiencing something new and unfamiliar. Classrooms where day in and day out the lighting, temperature, layout, and scenery are always the same does not have much to offer in this area. But moving the class outside opens up fresh stimuli for the senses. I certainly remember the SOAP notes and topics we discussed outside, much more than in the small conference room where the rest of our discussions take place.
-Study of college students: By transforming an on-campus course into a blended course, we were able to conduct seminars outdoors in nearby nature while walking. These walking seminars were evaluated among 131 students and nine teachers leading the walking seminars. The responses to the student survey and teacher interviews indicate that discussions, sense of well-being and the general quality of the seminar improved, regardless of how physically active participants were the rest of the time. The study shows one way to increase physical activity with small means; in our case
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Two Pills Tips: Step Away from the Podium!
Resources:
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/23/8410
https://community.acue.org/blog/three-misconceptions-using-active-learning-stem/
https://news.aamc.org/medical-education/article/flipped-classrooms-scrapping-traditional-lectures-/
Episode Notes:
- “Universities were founded in Western Europe in 1050 and lecturing has been the predominant form of teaching ever since”
- Scott Freeman, University of Washington
- “It’s almost unethical to be lecturing if you have this data...an abundance of proof that lecturing is outmoded, outdated, and inefficient.”
- Eric Mazur, Harvard University
- Our Learners
- Self-directed, problem-centered, prefer active involvement
- Millennial learners are participatory and prefer assembling information
- Need to recall extensive amounts of practical information
- Why active learning?
- Meta-analysis of 225 undergrad STEM studies
- Comparing student performance when exposed to traditional lecture vs. lecture with active learning
- Performance
- Traditional lecture = 34%
- Active learning = 22%
- Exam scores ↑ 6%
- Letter grade ↑ C+ to B-
- Active Learning
- Student centered
- Knowledge structures changing
- Contextualized knowledge
- Small groups
- Student dialogue
- Transformational
- Passive Learning
- Teacher centered
- Passive learning/memorization
- Knowledge out of context
- Individual
- Student listening
- Traditional
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