
Sex is for Women Too | Ariel Finlinson | #70
01/29/24 • 32 min
Ariel joins Dr. Dave Schramm and Dr. Liz Hale to discuss the complex dynamics of sex
in a relationship and how women can feel empowered in their sexuality.
Sign up for Ariel's FREE MASTERCLASS NOW THRU February 12, 2024: https://outlook.office.com/mail/safelink.html?url=https://ladiestalkinglove.com/masterclass&corid=6a8a53f5-c147-1b8a-d10f-5cc24b4e1cb5
Starting February 5, 2024 earn a special $20 discount from using this link: https://ladies-talking-love.ck.page/products/womens-sexuality-course-registration?promo=DAVE
About Ariel Finlinson:
Ariel Finlayson is a women's sexuality educator and the host of the ladies talking love podcast.
She recently earned her master's in Human Development and Family Studies at Utah State
University. A native of northern Wisconsin, she can't get enough of forests or fresh squeaky
cheese curds. Her online course from pressure to passion empowers women to live up to the
joy and fulfillment they deserve in their relationships. She is currently living in Utah with her
husband, Kyle, and their four young children.
- Insights:
“I think just recognizing number one, that it is a really important part of your relationship to foster. And then number two, that it isn't all of your relationship but with that connection and sex, you are going to be able to have a more thriving and flourishing and beautiful empowering relationship than you thought possible.” -Ariel Finlinson 22:38-22:57 - “To ask ourselves as women "Where did I get my information?" Where did I get this belief that sex is for men, for instance, or that ‘good girls don't,’ right? Many of us have heard through them years? Where did I get that information? And can I explore something different?” -Dr. Liz Hale 28:44-29:00
Invites:
- Download Ariel’s free resource, “10 Questions to ask your spouse about Sex”
- Find a time to discuss with your partner the stereotypes that you believe are affecting your relationship.
Ariel’s Links:
Instagram: @ladies.talkinglove
Website: https://www.ladiestalkinglove.com
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways:
StrongerMarriage.org
podcast.strongermarriage.org
Facebook: StrongerMarriage.org
Instagram:
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways:
Strongermarriage.org
Podcast.stongermarriage.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/
Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/
Dr. Dave Schramm:
Dr. Liz Hale:
http://www.drlizhale.com
Ariel joins Dr. Dave Schramm and Dr. Liz Hale to discuss the complex dynamics of sex
in a relationship and how women can feel empowered in their sexuality.
Sign up for Ariel's FREE MASTERCLASS NOW THRU February 12, 2024: https://outlook.office.com/mail/safelink.html?url=https://ladiestalkinglove.com/masterclass&corid=6a8a53f5-c147-1b8a-d10f-5cc24b4e1cb5
Starting February 5, 2024 earn a special $20 discount from using this link: https://ladies-talking-love.ck.page/products/womens-sexuality-course-registration?promo=DAVE
About Ariel Finlinson:
Ariel Finlayson is a women's sexuality educator and the host of the ladies talking love podcast.
She recently earned her master's in Human Development and Family Studies at Utah State
University. A native of northern Wisconsin, she can't get enough of forests or fresh squeaky
cheese curds. Her online course from pressure to passion empowers women to live up to the
joy and fulfillment they deserve in their relationships. She is currently living in Utah with her
husband, Kyle, and their four young children.
- Insights:
“I think just recognizing number one, that it is a really important part of your relationship to foster. And then number two, that it isn't all of your relationship but with that connection and sex, you are going to be able to have a more thriving and flourishing and beautiful empowering relationship than you thought possible.” -Ariel Finlinson 22:38-22:57 - “To ask ourselves as women "Where did I get my information?" Where did I get this belief that sex is for men, for instance, or that ‘good girls don't,’ right? Many of us have heard through them years? Where did I get that information? And can I explore something different?” -Dr. Liz Hale 28:44-29:00
Invites:
- Download Ariel’s free resource, “10 Questions to ask your spouse about Sex”
- Find a time to discuss with your partner the stereotypes that you believe are affecting your relationship.
Ariel’s Links:
Instagram: @ladies.talkinglove
Website: https://www.ladiestalkinglove.com
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways:
StrongerMarriage.org
podcast.strongermarriage.org
Facebook: StrongerMarriage.org
Instagram:
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways:
Strongermarriage.org
Podcast.stongermarriage.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/
Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/
Dr. Dave Schramm:
Dr. Liz Hale:
http://www.drlizhale.com
Previous Episode

Struggling With Inadequacy | Natasha Dansie | #69
Natasha joins Dr. Dave Schramm and Dr. Liz Hale to talk about the struggles that
women face with feelings of inadequacy and simple tips to overcoming these feelings.
About Natasha Dansie:
Natasha offers concrete tips and real life examples of everyday interactions that often lead to
mothers thinking they aren't enough. Natasha Dansie is a certified family life educator. She has taught relationship education classes through Utah State University for the past 11 years,
working with a variety of audiences from high school students and retreats for women to
inmates in the maximum security unit and everything in between. She loves traveling, learning
and snuggling. Natasha and her husband Jeff are raising their five children ages 7 to 19
alongside a variety of farm animals in central Utah.
Insights:
- “It's hard to be grateful and resentful.” -Dr. Liz Hale
- “Observe and then serve.” -Dr. Dave Schramm
- “One of the actions that I've personally seen the power of in my own life is the intentional practice of gratitude. So when I feel my stuff, my brain starts slipping into this negative vortex that starts to get dark. And I just have to pause. And when I start practicing gratitude, it's like, I can reverse the effects of that.” -Natasha Dansie
Invites:
- Find a moment to pause after you have a feeling of inadequacy.
- If someone shares the way that they are feeling, instead of stating why they shouldn’t be
feeling that way, validate their feelings by saying something like, “that must be really
difficult” or “I see how you could feel that way.”
Natasha’s Links:
Email: [email protected]
Instagram: @natashadansie
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways:
StrongerMarriage.org
podcast.strongermarriage.org
Facebook: StrongerMarriage.org
Instagram: @strongermarriagelife
Dr. Dave Schramm:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrDaveUSU
Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579
Facebook Parenting Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/542067440314642
Dr. Liz Hale:
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways:
Strongermarriage.org
Podcast.stongermarriage.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/
Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/
Dr. Dave Schramm:
Dr. Liz Hale:
http://www.drlizhale.com
Next Episode

Gray Divorce | Lori Schade | #71
Lori joins Dr. Dave Schramm and Dr. Liz Hale to discuss the common issues that
result in a mid-life or “gray” divorce.
About Lori Schade:
Lori Schade is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and AAMFT approved therapy
supervisor running a therapy practice in Pleasant Grove Utah called Compassionate
Connections Counseling. She specializes in Emotionally Focused Couples Therapy and
supervises therapists towards certification in the model. She has been an adjunct faculty
member in the Marriage and Family Therapy Department at Brigham Young University as well
as Utah Valley University. For over three decades she has practiced therapy alternately with
raising seven children and has published several peer reviewed materials related to her
profession. In her spare time she enjoys running, traveling, tandem bike riding with her
husband, knitting and playing the organ. She is convinced the grandchildren are one of life's
best kept secrets.
Insights:
- “There's always hope. I have a very easy time being hopeful for married couples, sometimes I have to say, ‘borrow my hope.’ I actually got that from Dr. Rebecca Jorgensen. And I think it's so lovely. And a lot of times small changes bring about really large changes in dynamics in marriage.” - Lori Schade
- “There are two kinds of commitment. One is personal commitment, where you feel free to exercise where you want to put your loyalty. The term is kind of like restraint. It's actually called constraint commitment, and constraint commitment are all of those variables that keep people feeling stuck. It might be religious beliefs, it might be children in the home, it might be financial constraints, but there are those things where people might divorce but they stay there because they feel these barriers to divorce? And so sometimes at midlife, those are removed. And so I think it's quite possible that that's also why we might see a resurgence of divorce and at that time.” -Lori Schade
Invites:
- Find time in your week to have a connection check-in with your partner by asking these three questions. How connected are we from last time we checked? More or less or the same? What's been happening in our lives that may have impacted the level of connection? What is one small thing that would help me feel more connected?"
- Reach out to a therapist to learn more about Emotionally Focused Therapy to see if it could potentially strengthen your relationship with your partner.
Lori’s Links:
Compassionate Connections Counseling Website
Book mentioned by Lori: The Lost Love Chronicles: Reunions & Memories of First Love by Nancy Kalish
Visit our site for FREE rela
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways:
Strongermarriage.org
Podcast.stongermarriage.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/
Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/
Dr. Dave Schramm:
Dr. Liz Hale:
http://www.drlizhale.com
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