
Self-Awareness for Leadership Success - with Dr. Nia Thomas
04/27/23 • 46 min
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From our experience in executive coaching and leadership development we see again and again that self-awareness is absolutely mission critical for self-development and personal growth. And of course, we can ask the question: Is there a link between a leader's self-awareness and his or her leadership effectiveness?
To help us answer this question, we have a great guest on the show, Dr. Nia Thomas.
Key moments
[05:19] Nia shares what triggered her curiosity about leadership and self-awareness
[08:04] Most important findings from Nia’s research. The “strategic level disconnect” between what people at the most senior levels of the organizations are setting in motion and what they seem to be thinking, compared to what others are thinking. One element of this is filtered feedback, and regardless of organisation, in a senior leadership position you will get filtered feedback, which means that you are disconnect to the rest of the organisation to a greater or lesser extent.
[16:14] Identified 3 layers of Leadership Self-awareness
- Reflection or Internal self-awareness, which is about me looking inward, knowing myself.
- Recognition or Internal social self-awareness, is about recognising that people are observing me and have opinions about me.
- Regulation or External social self-awareness, which is about regulating my behavior based on knowing myself, and knowing how others see me.
[27:40] Is there a correlation between a leader's self-awareness and their effectiveness?
The answer is a resounding yes - but. Leaders with high degree of self-awareness is an essential component to generate success. However, many organisations say it’s their aspiration, however the reality is, it’s not happening everywhere.
[31:28] What are potential dilemmas or challenges leaders might encounter when developing, or sharpening, their self-awareness?
- Need to recognise that self-awareness is an ongoing journey that you need to invest your time and effort
- The risk of filtered feedback, especially as a more senior leader
- Situations of stress, when we can’t cope to regulate our behavior
- ‘Busyness’ and seen to always be doing something, with no space for reflection
Self-awareness is a journey - “Know thyself, but ensure you keep reacquainting yourself”.
Reflection Questions:
- Stop and ask: Can I describe how I think others see me?
If I can't, how will I develop my antenna, my space, my opportunity to be able to answer that question? - What are the situations where I need to be more self-aware of my own behavior and its impact on my effectiveness as a leader?
- What do I need to focus on to increase my self-awareness?
- What are certain circumstances, situations, or people that either enhance or deplete my self-awareness?
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Get in touch with Nia through LinkedIn Dr. Nia Thomas or email at [email protected]
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More info about us and our work on our website: secondcrackleadership.com
Do you have any questions, feedback, or suggestions for us? Would you like to explore how we can help you to drive results in your organisations through a company-wide initiative or individual executive coaching? Then email us at [email protected] or connect on LinkedIn.
Gerrit Pelzer
Martin Aldergård
From our experience in executive coaching and leadership development we see again and again that self-awareness is absolutely mission critical for self-development and personal growth. And of course, we can ask the question: Is there a link between a leader's self-awareness and his or her leadership effectiveness?
To help us answer this question, we have a great guest on the show, Dr. Nia Thomas.
Key moments
[05:19] Nia shares what triggered her curiosity about leadership and self-awareness
[08:04] Most important findings from Nia’s research. The “strategic level disconnect” between what people at the most senior levels of the organizations are setting in motion and what they seem to be thinking, compared to what others are thinking. One element of this is filtered feedback, and regardless of organisation, in a senior leadership position you will get filtered feedback, which means that you are disconnect to the rest of the organisation to a greater or lesser extent.
[16:14] Identified 3 layers of Leadership Self-awareness
- Reflection or Internal self-awareness, which is about me looking inward, knowing myself.
- Recognition or Internal social self-awareness, is about recognising that people are observing me and have opinions about me.
- Regulation or External social self-awareness, which is about regulating my behavior based on knowing myself, and knowing how others see me.
[27:40] Is there a correlation between a leader's self-awareness and their effectiveness?
The answer is a resounding yes - but. Leaders with high degree of self-awareness is an essential component to generate success. However, many organisations say it’s their aspiration, however the reality is, it’s not happening everywhere.
[31:28] What are potential dilemmas or challenges leaders might encounter when developing, or sharpening, their self-awareness?
- Need to recognise that self-awareness is an ongoing journey that you need to invest your time and effort
- The risk of filtered feedback, especially as a more senior leader
- Situations of stress, when we can’t cope to regulate our behavior
- ‘Busyness’ and seen to always be doing something, with no space for reflection
Self-awareness is a journey - “Know thyself, but ensure you keep reacquainting yourself”.
Reflection Questions:
- Stop and ask: Can I describe how I think others see me?
If I can't, how will I develop my antenna, my space, my opportunity to be able to answer that question? - What are the situations where I need to be more self-aware of my own behavior and its impact on my effectiveness as a leader?
- What do I need to focus on to increase my self-awareness?
- What are certain circumstances, situations, or people that either enhance or deplete my self-awareness?
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Get in touch with Nia through LinkedIn Dr. Nia Thomas or email at [email protected]
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More info about us and our work on our website: secondcrackleadership.com
Do you have any questions, feedback, or suggestions for us? Would you like to explore how we can help you to drive results in your organisations through a company-wide initiative or individual executive coaching? Then email us at [email protected] or connect on LinkedIn.
Gerrit Pelzer
Martin Aldergård
Previous Episode

Genuine Dialogue: Key to Effective Leadership
On the one hand, ‘every leader knows’ that it’s important to make all voices heard in an organisation, diversity and inclusion is critical. On the other hand, it’s still not uncommon to experience meetings where only a minority of participants is talking. And why is it so difficult to truly listen to opposing viewpoints?
It has a lot to do with dialogue. In this episode we go deeper into the practice of genuin dialogue, its benefits and challenges. And, as always Gerrit and Martin have very different entry-points. Gerrit is sharing his personal observations on why dialogue is so hard, and Martin is sharing tips on how leaders can increase the quality of dialogue in their conversations and team meetings.
Key moments
[08:55] Gerrit shares 3 observations of why dialogue and listening is hard:
- the difference in motivation
- emotions
- own bias
The problem is not so much that ‘the other person is obviously wrong’, but that our underlying world-view is challenged.
[15:24] We don’t give enough time to listen, to let people share what is important to them. We say that we have an ‘open mind’, but suspending judgement and being non-defensive, is not easy. So we need to be aware of our own ‘trigger points’ as leaders by being more aware of:
- What subject or situation might trigger defensiveness?
- When might I raise my voice?
- When might my non-verbal communication change to being more defensive?
[19:21] Leaders must become better in leading group dialogue, not only focus on the content of the conversation but also on the process, switching between wearing the leader-hat and the facilitator hat. Plan your meetings to include time for dialogue and create meeting structure that supports dialogue.
[24:23] Practical examples of easy to apply dialogue structures:
- Equal Voice
- 1-2-4-All
[27:52] Dialogue takes too much time. How to get around it? Put the time invested in the right context:
- You hired all these smart and diverse people - it takes structure and time to help them ‘think together’.
- The cost of failed or delayed transformation projects is larger than the upfront cost of good dialogue.
[32:05] Common misperceptions of ‘dialogue’:
- The process of dialogue and then making decisions can be different. If we use dialogue to involve and let everyone be heard, doesn’t need to be followed by consensus decision making.
- Dialogue doesn’t need to be all harmony and ‘holding hands’. The best dialogue is a safe enough environment to explore conflicting opinions.
Reflection Questions:
- How can I use an approach of dialogue to scale up my influence and impact in my organisation? With what people or stakeholders, and for what questions?
- What are the world-views that I hold dearly and that I don't like to see challenged, and in which situations, or what triggers me being defensive, ie. making it more difficult for me to have a dialogue?
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More info about us and our work is also on our website: secondcrackleadership.com
Do you have any questions, feedback, or suggestions for us? Would you like to explore how we can help you to drive results in your organisations through a company-wide initiative or individual executive coaching? Then email us at [email protected]
To connect with us on LinkedIn:
Martin Aldergård
Gerrit Pelzer
Next Episode

Can, Care, Do: How to Build Trust and Spark Action — with Jim Massey, CSO
We are joined by Jim Massey, Chief Sustainability Officer at Zai Lab, and former global Vice President of ESG at AstraZeneca. Jim shares his experience as a global sustainability leader, and how he is using the Can, Care, Do model to lead transformation in the healthcare industry. Jim is also the author of the newly launched book "Trust in Action".
Listen and gain insights on how you can build trust: the foundation of all positive action and change. And as always, we end with a few reflection questions for you.
Can, Care, Do is a simple and easy-to-remember guide that you can use to build trust and spark action. And Jim shares stories and practical examples of how he has used the approach to lead change in two organisations under very different circumstances. At AstraZeneca, Jim lead the transformation towards sustainability goals in a large multi-national organisation. At Zai Lab, it is all about scaling sustainability from the start, as the company is growing. In both cases, trust is a fundamental component, but different elements of trust need to be addressed.
Key moments
[05:10] Trust in Action. Trust and action run in parallel.
[09:30] The elements of the Can-Care-Do model and how to use it.
[15:31] How Jim put the Can-Care-Do model into practice, as the newly appointed, ‘outside’ leader, of a highly qualified team of ESG specialists.
[20:17] The biggest challenge? To hold myself accountable.
[26:12] Growing and scaling a global bio-tech start-up, being planet positive from the get-go.
[31:07] Stepping into the BS. Addressing the systems that are getting in the way of trust.
[36:57] From all the things that needs to change, scope out something, and focus on that little piece.
Reflection Questions:
- When reflecting, the most powerful actually sits in Can, as in why do I exist. For me as a leader, what is my why? Why am I here, and am I fulfilling that? Or am I distracted with so much of the Doing, that I’m forgetting my greatest impact?
- At work today, did I feel I could be myself, and were there perhaps situations where I felt I couldn’t? And reflecting on what to do about it: Is it about me to set the intension of behaving differently next time, or is it something ‘in the system’ that allows, or doesn’t allow, me to be my true self?
- As I face a challenging leadership situation, or not seeing the action or results that are needed, how can I use this situation as an opportunity to nurture and build trust? Which of Can, Care, or Do is the area I need to work on?
Information about Jim and his book ‘Trust in Action’
You can find more information about Jim and his book at www.jimmassey.co
Or on LinkedIn Jim Massey
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More info about us and our work is on our website secondcrackleadership.com
Do you have any questions, feedback, or suggestions for us? Would you like to explore how we can help you to drive results in your organisations through a company-wide initiative or individual executive coaching? Then email us at [email protected]
To connect on LinkedIn:
Gerrit Pelzer
Martin Aldergård
Second Crack — The Leadership Podcast - Self-Awareness for Leadership Success - with Dr. Nia Thomas
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Second Crack – The Leadership Podcast
with guest Dr. Nia Thomas (Episode 21)
This transcript is AI-generated and may contain typos and errors.
[00:00:00] Gerrit: Is there a correlation between a leader's self-awareness and their effectiveness?
[00:00:05] Nia: My research and everybody that I've spoken to has given a resounding yes, and there's always a but - yes but. If we are thinking about the world today, wha
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