
Ep. 25: Nat Urban & the Doing of It All for Our Younger Selves
10/06/22 • 51 min
This week’s guest is queer, non-binary artist and writer, Nat Urban (they/them), who is currently working on a badass project on queerness and girlhood which you’ll hear them talk about towards then end of this episode. Nat brings such an interesting and important story to this show and I feel so grateful they wanted to let us all into it. You’ll hear them share about their own adolescence in which they stepped into the role as the primary out, loud, and proud queer person in their high school who other queer people started looking up to, but how this was connected to overcompensating for some painful rejection they were experiencing at home and lots of internal struggle. They go on to share about the evolution of their experience in their queerness, their mental health journey, and how stepping into their non-binary identity in the past couple of years has come with another layer of needing to travel through a Second Adolescence. This was such a powerful conversation.
(Just a heads up there is discussion of the topics of depression, suicide, and self-harm, so I invite you to do whatever you might need to take care of yourself as a listener.)
About the guest:
Nat (they/them) is an artist and academic exploring queer experience through a number of mediums. They're a recent graduate of Butler University and just stepping into their life outside of undergrad and discovering their joys and passions in this new space. They're currently working on a project on queerness and girlhood consisting of a multitude of mediums and areas of exploration as well as getting into costuming and custom clothing in Los Angeles.
For more visit www.secondadolescencepod.com or @secondadolescencepod.
Download episode transcript here.
This week’s guest is queer, non-binary artist and writer, Nat Urban (they/them), who is currently working on a badass project on queerness and girlhood which you’ll hear them talk about towards then end of this episode. Nat brings such an interesting and important story to this show and I feel so grateful they wanted to let us all into it. You’ll hear them share about their own adolescence in which they stepped into the role as the primary out, loud, and proud queer person in their high school who other queer people started looking up to, but how this was connected to overcompensating for some painful rejection they were experiencing at home and lots of internal struggle. They go on to share about the evolution of their experience in their queerness, their mental health journey, and how stepping into their non-binary identity in the past couple of years has come with another layer of needing to travel through a Second Adolescence. This was such a powerful conversation.
(Just a heads up there is discussion of the topics of depression, suicide, and self-harm, so I invite you to do whatever you might need to take care of yourself as a listener.)
About the guest:
Nat (they/them) is an artist and academic exploring queer experience through a number of mediums. They're a recent graduate of Butler University and just stepping into their life outside of undergrad and discovering their joys and passions in this new space. They're currently working on a project on queerness and girlhood consisting of a multitude of mediums and areas of exploration as well as getting into costuming and custom clothing in Los Angeles.
For more visit www.secondadolescencepod.com or @secondadolescencepod.
Download episode transcript here.
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Ep. 24: Nicole Liv & the Joy and Grief in Late Blooming
This week’s guest is Nicole Liv (she/her), host of Late Bloomers Clvb podcast. The Late Bloomers Clvb is a community and podcast for Late Blooming queer folks who identify as having come out later in life and find themselves later blooming into their most true queer selves. I cannot recommend this community and Nicole’s work enough. Today, Nicole sat in the role of guest and offered her own story and journey with us. She shares what led to her being someone who didn't start to have full awareness of her queerness until being in her thirties, and how so much of her story and healing has involved looking back in her story to see the moments when her queerness was hijacked from her, repressed, and not given space to fully breathe and develop, and how she engaged in undoing all this now. She talks with us about Joy and Grief being the two primary markers of her queer healing journey, and truly invites all of us to more deeply look at our own stories and our own needs for healing and liberation. I friggin loved this conversation and love everything the Late Bloomers Clvb is about and am excited to invite you into it.
About the guest:
Nicole Liv (she/her) identifies as a late blooming lesbian who came out at 34 due to compulsory heterosexuality. She's a podcast host and community facilitator whose mission is to help late blooming queer folks (and all queer folks) cultivate more joy and justice in their lives. For more about the Late Bloomers Clvb, visit www.latebloomersclvb.com or follow @latebloomersclvb.
For more about Second Adolescence, visit www.secondadolescencepod.com or follow @secondadolescencepod.
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Ep. 26: Patrick Carlos Olsen & the Bringing Together of All Our Parts
This week’s guest is Patrick Carlos Olsen (he/him), who is the person behind the gay surfing magazine, podcast, and Instagram account, Surfer.Gay. In his work, Patrick is creating inclusion of queer people within the sport of surfing, which has been historically not too welcome of a place for LGBTQ+ people. This conversation starts here and is filled with so much more. Patrick lets us into his own story and experience growing up in Norway as an adoptee, navigating being of a different race as his peers, then dealing with his budding sexuality in adolescence while growing up within a conservative, christian part of Norway. He goes on to share about his journey in finding himself and integrating together all parts of him self. Patrick was so generous with his story, I feel so grateful he wanted to contribute it to this greater collective work supporting our community.
About the guest:
Patrick (he/him) is not your average adopted gay christian arctic surfer. He has lived and worked in his van for the last 5 years and absolutely love that lifestyle. Surfing has become a way for him to find his community local and global. For more about Patrick, visit Surfer.Gay, or follow @surfer.gay and @pcolsen on Instagram.
For more about Second Adolescence, visit www.secondadolescencepod.com and @secondadolescencepod.
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