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SCALE UP

SCALE UP

Jerry Hu

SCALE UP is a bi-weekly video series of insightful conversations with senior HR leaders, founders and venture capitalists at Alibaba, TikTok, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Open AI, Sequoia Capital, A16Z... across the globe on topics around talent strategies, future of work, and how they get to where they are. I hope these conversations can democratize the access to information and inspire those going through similar challenges when scaling their growth companies. Subscribe or follow to never miss an episode of SCALE UP.
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best SCALE UP episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to SCALE UP for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite SCALE UP episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

Hi fellow subscribers,

If SCALE UP has sparked your curiosity and inspired your growth journey, give a listen to this 🎙️ compelling review of the book, packed with deep insights, practical examples, and thoughtful discussions on the future of work in the era of AGI.

In this podcast episode, you'll explore:

✅ Key strategies from SCALE UP brought to life with real-world applications.✅ Fresh perspectives on adapting to transformative technologies like AGI.✅ Expert commentary on navigating the challenges of scaling up in today’s dynamic world.

Tune in and take your scaling lessons to the next level!


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My guest this week is Sagar Khatri, co-Founder & CEO of Multiplier, a leading global workforce management platform that makes it easy for companies to employ teams internationally. Recently featured in Forbes 30 under 30 list, Sagar’s journey has been nothing short of extraordinary. Emerging from humble beginnings in India, he has consistently pursued a singular mission in life: to create something impactful and meaningful, to make the world a better place for everyone. Graduated from the top engineering university in India - Indian Institute of Technology, Sagar began his career at the prestigious investment bank Nomura, where he provided counsel to numerous companies across the Asia-Pacific region. A fortunate encounter with a Sequoia Capital investor marked the beginning of his entrepreneurial journey, initially with Hmlet before embarking on his own venture.

Sagar's motivation for founding Multiplier stemmed from his personal experiences with the challenges and complexities of international expansion he experienced firsthand at Hmlet. He sought to alleviate the very pains he had once endured, ultimately making business expansion across borders significantly more accessible.

In this interview, we delve deep into Sagar's inspiring personal journey and uncover the secret ingredients of his success. Sagar generously shares his invaluable insights on scaling a business, along with the unique people and cultural practices he has pioneered and implemented within his company. Finally, he imparts insightful tips for fellow founders on navigating the current uncertain climate, striking a balance between taking risks and making bets.

“A good founder prioritizes taking calculated risks while ensuring a sound balance sheet. ” Subscribe to the FREE newsletter for detailed write-ups of the interview!

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This week, my guest is Andy Waroma, the Founder and Managing Director of Cloud Comrade, a prominent public cloud solutions provider across the Asia-Pacific region, recently acquired by ST Telemedia Cloud. Originally from Finland, Andy moved to Singapore in 2000 through an international job assignment at SAP. Little did he know that originally intended short-term stint would turn into a remarkable 23-year journey, and he now happily considers Singapore his second home. Andy's professional journey began as a consultant at Capgemini, where he served SAP as a client. Later on, he made a transition to SAP and dedicated over a decade to building various teams and practices across EMEA and APAC regions. In 2011, recognizing the growing momentum of cloud technology in Asia, he proposed a cloud-related project. Unfortunately, his idea was rejected by SAP, leading him to embark on his first entrepreneurial venture, which ultimately led to the founding of Cloud Comrade. Since then, the company has grown from a team of 0 to 100 employees, serving over 500 clients across the APAC region. During this interview, Andy generously shared valuable life lessons he learned throughout his entrepreneurial journey. He offered insightful advice on managing people and implementing effective organizational practices while scaling a company. Moreover, he delved into his fascinating personal trajectory and shared some of the secrets that contributed to his success. “Authentic and reciprocal relationships go beyond superficial interactions and play a pivotal role in professional networking.” Subscribe to the ⁠bi-weekly newsletter⁠ for detailed write-ups of the interview!

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My guest this week is Will Fan, the CEO and Head of School at NewCampus. NewCampus is an education platform that caters specifically to Asia-based growth companies, providing tailored solutions to help founders and leaders scale their people and organizational practices. Will's entrepreneurial journey can be traced back to his upbringing in a working-class Asian immigrant family in Australia. Throughout his life, he keenly felt the absence of role models and the lack of resources to find one. This experience ultimately propelled him towards his current venture in the education sector. Prior to this, he has also worked in the banking and consulting sectors, with renowned companies such as Nomura and Accenture. During our interview, Will shared invaluable advice for startup founders on navigating the challenges of the current funding winter. Drawing from his extensive experience serving over 500 startups for a decade, he discussed key lessons about people and organizational dynamics. Additionally, he opened up about his personal journey, highlighting the difficult circumstances he witnessed while growing up, which served as a powerful motivation for his current endeavors. "The essence of building a successful business lies in creating something credible and valuable for your customers. It's not about playing funding games or presenting superficial figures to achieve short-term gains." Subscribe to never miss an episode of SCALE UP.
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My guest this week is Mohan Belani, the Co-founder and CEO of e27, the preeminent platform for fostering connections, providing insights, and facilitating funding opportunities within Southeast Asia's dynamic startup ecosystem. With a compelling vision to equip entrepreneurs with the essential tools for nurturing and expanding their businesses across the Asia-Pacific region, e27 stands as the go-to resource.

Mohan is a trailblazing figure in the Southeast Asian startup and venture capital landscape, having embarked on this journey over a decade ago. His investment journey commenced shortly after completing his studies at the National University of Singapore (NUS), and he has since achieved notable success as an early-stage investor. Among his noteworthy portfolio companies are ]gLife, NirogStreet, Mindbloom and some early stage funds including Golden Gate Ventures, Kearny Jackson and Foxmont Capital.

In our conversation, I had the privilege of delving deep into Mohan's invaluable insights on scaling, tailored for both investors and startup founders. He also shared invaluable advice for founders navigating the challenges of the current funding landscape, often referred to as the 'funding winter.' Furthermore, Mohan shared the inspiring trajectory of his own personal journey and reflected on the significant leadership transformations he has witnessed over the years.

“Be willing to be misunderstood.”

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"Every problem is an opportunity in disguise." - John Adams. Like many others, Cass and her entire crew have also been impacted by the dreaded #layoffs2023 pandemic. Although disheartened by the sad news, Cass also saw an opportunity in this layoff market.

“Tech startups still have to grow and keep expanding. However, their way of engaging marketing agencies will need to change fundamentally to adjust to the restricted budgets. This is where I see an opportunity, to be a true partner to the client through fractional marketing team. "

Tune in to this episode where Cass shared the story behind OtterHalf. ( 🔊 Spoiler alert, the name is a witty wordplay and definitely has something to do with Otters as well) and her top tips for turning setbacks into stepping stones and starting a new venture.

1️⃣ Know your strength and do what you love. This way, people can naturally feel your passion and energy.

2️⃣ Execution is key. Surely planning and testing your hypotheses are important when starting a business, but there are no perfect market research can 100% predict the best way to proceed, so my advice is to take that first step and start doing it.

3️⃣ Money matters. Lastly, talk to as many people as you can to get an initial sense of the demand, product-market-fit of your idea. Then do a proper financial budgeting and forecasting to make sure you have taken calculated risks before venturing into entrepreneurship.

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My guest this week is Andrew Du, Founder of an Generative AI venture, Quadratic Acceleration Quantum, ex-VP of investment at Sequoia Capital China Fund, Andrew is a trailblazing GenZ entrepreneur/investor in the startup/VC ecosystem in China. He started his journey as a strategic analyst at Tencent, making waves with the merger of the new Tencent Music Entertainment Group. Later, he joined Sequoia Capital, swiftly becoming the youngest player in the game. At Sequoia, he immersed himself in early-stage projects in the consumer sector, hitting the jackpot with investments in killer brands like 得物App, SUPERMONKEY超级猩猩健身, Wenheyou...

Beyond his investment efforts, Andrew is also a talented indie musician and writer. He's authored books on #artificialintelligence, #creatoreconomy, and #metaverse real estate. Additionally, he's a frequent speaker at CCTV+ (Video News Agency), Phoenix TV, TEDtoChina and Global Times...

In our conversation, Andrew and I delved deep into the evolving landscape of the #futureofwork in China. We discussed the lessons and tips for managing the #genz crew, and lastly, Andrew shared his inspirational life journey from growing up in the rural countryside to becoming a successful investor and entrepreneur today. Subscribe to the bi-weekly newsletter for detailed write-ups of this interview.

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My guest this week is Hanqing Wu, CEO & Founder of KMind, an gen AI focused venture, dedicated to leading the AI revolution with innovative concepts such as programmable personal computers, marking the beginning of a new era for intelligent assistants. Hanqing, also known as Dao Ge, is a renowned figure in the world of cybersecurity.

Starting as a teenage prodigy, he delved into hacking and founded the Phantom Forum at the age of 16, a leading security organization in China. Hanqing played a pivotal role in establishing Alibaba's network security system and, at just 28, led the defense against one of the largest DDoS attacks in internet history. His expertise and contributions earned him recognition, making him a key figure at Alibaba and a global innovator in technology, acknowledged by MIT Technology Review in 2017.

During this interview, we explored the captivating narrative of Hanqing's tech journey, We discussed his most significant scaling regrets and delved into his distinctive management philosophy and leadership lessons.

As requested by the guest, this episode is audio only.

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My guest this week is Philip Zheng, Philip has over 30 years of HR experience across big tech and startups. Self-described as an achiever when growing up, Philip stumbled into the HR field from a happy coincidence during his first graduate job. Back in 1995, the HR field in China was still in its infant stages, and local companies predominantly viewed HR as an administrative function and referred to HR as “Personnel” rather than “Resource”.

Drawing from his education background in international affairs, Philip always maintained a focus on the bigger picture. This led him to ride a few waves of technology transformation, from the industrial age to the software era, and ultimately to the advent of AI. Throughout his career, he has held top HR leadership positions at renowned companies such as Microsoft, Motorola, Baidu, and MEGVII—an AI unicorn in China, with AI-powered solutions include: Personal IoT solutions to improve user experience on personal devices by empowering cameras with AI; City IoT solutions to enhance public safety, optimize city and community management, and improve urban resource planning; and Supply Chain IoT solutions to make the supply chain more efficient through AI-empowered robots and sensors.

Dive in this interview (in Chinese) to find out Philip’s scaling regrets, his secret ingredients when pivoting careers and his top advice for next-generation aspiring HR professionals.

“Instead of rushing to point out someone's mistakes or hastily trying to fix things, sometimes it's essential to allow time for the business and the entire organization to recognize those mistakes.”


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My guest this week is Aki Taha, co-founder of TalentStories, a media company dedicated to making us smarter about the radically changing world of work. TalentStories ships a weekly newsletter with over 1000 subscribers, as well as a must-listen podcast. And it advises leaders and organizations on how to attract, build and engage diverse, world-class teams.


Aki is a fixture in the tech recruiting space with over 20 years of experience leading US and APAC recruiting efforts at renowned tech titans like Google, Uber and Netflix. He’s helped those companies cross the 5 to 1,000 and 1,000-10,000 employee marks in Asia, during some of their highest-growth phases. And has had the chance to work with leaders like Reed Hastings, Travis Kalanick, and Laszlo Bock.


In this interview, we dive into Aki's intriguing personal journey – from his origins as a New Yorker to his experiences living and working across different parts of Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Latin America. He generously shared the secrets behind his success, and candidly discussed the obstacles he faced while scaling organizations – and himself.


Last, Aki offers up sincere and invaluable advice for recruiters in this incredibly tough job market. As well as tips on how employers can prepare for the massive transformations that are already taking place at work.


This is definitely a heartfelt episode you should not miss! All the more so if you’re a recruiter, or work in a talent function!


“Heartfelt, recruiter-to-recruiter advice on how to weather a downturn -- and why the Talent function needs you!”


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FAQ

How many episodes does SCALE UP have?

SCALE UP currently has 46 episodes available.

What topics does SCALE UP cover?

The podcast is about Entrepreneurship, Podcasts, Business and Careers.

What is the most popular episode on SCALE UP?

The episode title 'SCALE UP - Conversation with Anastasia Kuskova, Co-founder & CEO of Sirius' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on SCALE UP?

The average episode length on SCALE UP is 13 minutes.

How often are episodes of SCALE UP released?

Episodes of SCALE UP are typically released every 5 days, 23 hours.

When was the first episode of SCALE UP?

The first episode of SCALE UP was released on Apr 30, 2023.

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