
SaaSy Talk S02.12: Nick’s Startup Playbook
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06/10/24 • 48 min
About The Guest(s): Nick Houldsworth is Co-founder of Prosaic, which uses open banking and generative AI to automatically find tax deductions for sole traders and small business owners from personal bank, card and loan accounts, to share with their accountant or post to Xero or HNRY. He is also a beachheads advisor with NZTE. Previously he was Exec GM of Product at Xero, leading the developer API and app store, and before that CMO of retail software startup Vend. In the early 2000s he briefly played mandolin in Scotland's second most popular country band.
Episode Summary: Join us in this episode as we sit down with Nick Houldsworth, he shares valuable insights into his tech journey, from his unconventional entry into the industry to his experiences at Vend and Xero. He discusses the importance of being scrappy in the early stages of a startup, highlighting the necessity of understanding customer needs and staying adaptable. Nick elaborates on the lessons learned at Vend that remain relevant as he navigates the challenges of scaling his new startup, Prosaic. Through a thoughtful reflection on his past experiences, Nick provides strategic advice on prioritisation, hiring, and cultivating a vibrant company culture.
Key Takeaways:
- Embrace the hustle in the early stages of a startup and be prepared to do whatever it takes to move the business forward.
- Focus on understanding customer needs and solving common problems to drive the growth of your startup.
- Prioritise hiring based on the vision of where the company will be in the future, aligning talent with the evolving needs of the organisation.
- Setting clear expectations with hires and fostering a culture that values action and problem-solving can shape the company's identity and trajectory.
- Stay intentional about the company's culture by hiring diverse talent that embodies shared values while bringing fresh perspectives to the table.
Notable Quotes:
- We've got something to hook on to - let's see how we can optimise that and grow that part of it while we start to think about what's next." - Nick
- "Let's be intentional about the next hires, focusing on roles that align with our future growth and set clear expectations with new team members." - Nick
Chapters 01:01 Introduction and Greetings
01:11 Nick's Journey into Tech
01:43 From Music to IT
02:15 Early Career in Tech
03:41 Joining Vend and Xero
05:51 Lessons from Vend
08:39 Starting Prosaic
11:32 Early Stage Strategies
21:59 Prioritization and Hiring
27:37 Forecasting the Future of SaaS
28:20 The Importance of Culture in Scaling
29:10 Advising Early-Stage Startups
30:20 Intentional Hiring and Setting Expectations
34:09 Leveraging Past Connections for Talent
39:02 Social Media Strategy for Startups
43:34 Reflecting on Achievements and Future Goals
46:05 Quick Fire Round: Fun and Favorites
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About The Guest(s): Nick Houldsworth is Co-founder of Prosaic, which uses open banking and generative AI to automatically find tax deductions for sole traders and small business owners from personal bank, card and loan accounts, to share with their accountant or post to Xero or HNRY. He is also a beachheads advisor with NZTE. Previously he was Exec GM of Product at Xero, leading the developer API and app store, and before that CMO of retail software startup Vend. In the early 2000s he briefly played mandolin in Scotland's second most popular country band.
Episode Summary: Join us in this episode as we sit down with Nick Houldsworth, he shares valuable insights into his tech journey, from his unconventional entry into the industry to his experiences at Vend and Xero. He discusses the importance of being scrappy in the early stages of a startup, highlighting the necessity of understanding customer needs and staying adaptable. Nick elaborates on the lessons learned at Vend that remain relevant as he navigates the challenges of scaling his new startup, Prosaic. Through a thoughtful reflection on his past experiences, Nick provides strategic advice on prioritisation, hiring, and cultivating a vibrant company culture.
Key Takeaways:
- Embrace the hustle in the early stages of a startup and be prepared to do whatever it takes to move the business forward.
- Focus on understanding customer needs and solving common problems to drive the growth of your startup.
- Prioritise hiring based on the vision of where the company will be in the future, aligning talent with the evolving needs of the organisation.
- Setting clear expectations with hires and fostering a culture that values action and problem-solving can shape the company's identity and trajectory.
- Stay intentional about the company's culture by hiring diverse talent that embodies shared values while bringing fresh perspectives to the table.
Notable Quotes:
- We've got something to hook on to - let's see how we can optimise that and grow that part of it while we start to think about what's next." - Nick
- "Let's be intentional about the next hires, focusing on roles that align with our future growth and set clear expectations with new team members." - Nick
Chapters 01:01 Introduction and Greetings
01:11 Nick's Journey into Tech
01:43 From Music to IT
02:15 Early Career in Tech
03:41 Joining Vend and Xero
05:51 Lessons from Vend
08:39 Starting Prosaic
11:32 Early Stage Strategies
21:59 Prioritization and Hiring
27:37 Forecasting the Future of SaaS
28:20 The Importance of Culture in Scaling
29:10 Advising Early-Stage Startups
30:20 Intentional Hiring and Setting Expectations
34:09 Leveraging Past Connections for Talent
39:02 Social Media Strategy for Startups
43:34 Reflecting on Achievements and Future Goals
46:05 Quick Fire Round: Fun and Favorites
Subscribe on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/show/3ZVkJ12FIqD39oqgj7Kcjq
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/saasy-talk-unfiltered/id1709426070
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https://www.youtube.com/@SaaSyTalkUnfiltered
Subscribe on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/saasy-talk-unfiltered
Subscribe to our Newsletter:
https://substack.com/@saasytalkunfiltered
Visit our Website:
https://saasytalkunfiltered.transistor.fm/
Follow Ricky Sevta on Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickysevta/
Follow Sean Diljore on Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/seandiljore/
Follow Nick Houldsworth on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickhouldsworth/
Follow Prosaic on LinkedIn
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SaaSy Talk S02.11: Ozan's Odyssey: The Birth of Edge Delta and Beyond
About The Guest(s): Ozan Unlu is the CEO and Founder of Edge Delta. As a researcher, engineer, technologist, and business leader, he spent many years of his life in Turkey and has additionally resided in Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco. After years working as a software developer automating monitoring technologies server side at Microsoft, Unlu was part of the early team that built cloud computing platform Azure and subsequently the security team that handled all zero-day vulnerabilities across all Microsoft services. Though successful in the early years of his career at Microsoft, Unlu took the opportunity to join Silicon Valley Tech startup Sumo Logic as the first solution architect at corporate HQ. Helping grow Sumo Logic's ARR from $3M to $150M and stepping into a sales management role, Unlu contributed to the company's future successful IPO.
While serving as a trusted advisor to hundreds of companies, including some of the largest in tech, travel, finance, retail, and gaming, Unlu's unique experience and perspective on monitoring and observability led him to identify critical gaps in the market. Accelerating data growth requires a next-gen observability solution able to scale to petabytes and Unlu founded Edge Delta to meet these needs. Today, Edge Delta is Series B, has raised $82M, and is a leader in observability with a focus on data pipelines and continuous AI.
Episode Summary: In this episode, Ozan, founder and CEO of Edge Delta, joins the show to discuss his journey in the tech industry and the birth of Edge Delta. Ozan shares his background in engineering and his experience working at major tech companies before starting his own startup. He explains how Edge Delta is revolutionizing data observability in a world where data volumes are growing exponentially. Ozan also discusses the challenges of transitioning from a technical role to a founder and the importance of building the right team.
Key Takeaways:
- Edge Delta is a startup focused on data observability, addressing the challenges of managing and analyzing massive volumes of data in a rapidly evolving technological landscape.
- The data volumes being generated by organizations have grown exponentially in recent years, and traditional observability solutions are struggling to keep up. Edge Delta offers a new architecture and approach to handle the increasing data volumes.
- Ozan emphasizes the importance of having a strong team and the need to fill skill gaps when building a startup. It's crucial to have a diverse set of skills and expertise to tackle the challenges that arise.
- Founders need to be prepared for the ups and downs of the startup journey. It requires resilience, determination, and the ability to adapt to changing circumstances.
- Ozan highlights the importance of celebrating milestones and reflecting on the progress made. It's easy to get caught up in the day-to-day challenges, but taking time to acknowledge achievements can boost morale and motivation.
Notable Quotes:
- "I think the biggest learning experience I had early, and maybe this is just founder conviction, founder, what do you, whatever you want to call it, overconfidence. The realization of how interconnected every single small part of the business is." - Ozan Unlu
Chapters 00:07 Journey into Tech: From Intel to Edge Delta
00:57 Exploring Edge Delta: Revolutionizing Data Observability
02:53 The Startup Leap: Challenges and Mindset Shifts
05:53 From Developer to Founder: Navigating the Startup World
08:58 Scaling a Tech Startup: Sales, Growth, and Innovation
19:10 Reflecting on Progress and Navigating Challenges
21:54 Navigating Startup Funding: Insights and Strategies
22:20 The Reality of Startup Success and the Importance of Commitment
23:12 Pitch Deck Essentials: Putting Your Team First
25:41 Choosing the Right VC Partner: A Two-Way Street
27:24 Building Your First Leadership Team: What to Look For
29:49 Defining Success and Future Ambitions for Edge Delta
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SaaSy Talk S02.13: The Future of LinkedIn Influencers & Revenue Acceleration
About The Guest(s): Aneesh is the Founder and CEO of The Wishly Group. With over 17+ years in sales, most recently at Pinterest, Aneesh works with emerging organizations to accelerate their revenue. He currently operates as a Fractional Revenue Accelerator by tapping into orgs' sales, marketing and community initiatives.
Most recently, Aneesh has been coined as one of LinkedIn's first GTM Talent Agents, representing the likes of John Barrows, Kevin Dorsey, Morgan Ingram, Devin Reed and Jen Allen.
Episode Summary: In this episode, Aneesh discusses the future of LinkedIn influencers and revenue acceleration. He shares his experience in the B2B space and how he has brought his media background to LinkedIn. Aneesh explains his role as a fractional revenue accelerator and talent manager for LinkedIn sales creators. He emphasizes the importance of integrating sales, marketing, and community to build a modern revenue engine. Aneesh also discusses the challenges and opportunities for LinkedIn creators, the impact of gamification and AI on the platform, and the need for quality control in content creation.
Key Takeaways:
- The B2B space is experiencing the influence of marketing seen on platforms like TikTok and Instagram.
- Aneesh's role as a fractional revenue accelerator involves integrating sales, marketing, and community to build a modern revenue engine.
- LinkedIn creators need to focus on creating content that solves problems, provides valuable assets, sells transformation, and engages socially.
- Brands should look for consistency, engagement rates, and brand alignment when partnering with LinkedIn creators.
- The future of LinkedIn influencers lies in strategic partnerships, speaking engagements, and multi-channel presence.
Notable Quotes:
- B2B space is getting the influence of marketing that you would have seen on TikTok, Instagram, and Snapchat." - Aneesh
- "You need to be able to come up with ideas and concepts that drive people down the purchase funnel." - Aneesh
- "Quality control is so important because who you choose to align with, are they financially motivated or do they actually care about your brand?" - Aneesh
Chapters
00:43 Current Ventures and Business Model
01:53 Revenue Accelerator Explained
03:25 LinkedIn as a Platform for Influencers
07:50 Challenges and Opportunities for LinkedIn Creators
12:20 Navigating Personal Branding and Employment
17:42 Technical Difficulties and Connection Issues
17:55 The 4S Method for Content Creation
20:27 Future of Content Creation and AI
21:27 Quality Control in Content Creation
23:59 Strategic Partnerships and Brand Alignment
28:12 Quick Fire Round: Personal Favorites
31:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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