SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
Ken Lempit
Join us as we interview CEOs and CMOs of fast-growing SaaS firms to reveal what they are doing that’s working, and lessons learned from things that didn’t work as planned. These deep conversations dive into the dynamic world of SaaS B2B marketing, go-to-market strategies, and the SaaS business model. Content focuses on the pragmatic as well as strategic, providing a well-rounded diet for those running SaaS firms today. Hosted by Ken Lempit, Austin Lawrence Group’s president and chief business builder, who brings over 30 years of experience and expertise in helping software companies grow and their founders achieve their visions.
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Ep. 138 - Prioritizing and Enriching Data for SaaS Enterprise GTM Success - with Elio Narciso, Co-Founder & CEO at Scalestack
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
09/13/24 • 36 min
The ability to leverage data and prioritize sales and marketing efforts is essential to the success of enterprises with broad addressable markets.
Recognizing the struggles enterprises face in managing vast amounts of data, this week’s SaaS Backwards podcast guest Elio Narciso, saw an opportunity to improve how sales reps identify targets and prioritize their efforts.
Elio is the Co-founder and CEO of Scalestack, an all-in-one data enrichment, prioritization, and activation platform that allows go-to-market teams to easily map GTM data from many different sources to their ideal customer profile and their sales engine.
In this episode, Elio gives us a look into Scalestack’s origins. He recounts his background in advising startups at AWS and how it led him to uncover pockets of inefficiency in their go-to-market motions, such as a productivity gap for sales reps and a general dissatisfaction that companies have with their data.
Throughout this episode, Elio reflects on lessons from his past ventures, addresses common sales and marketing challenges, and highlights Scalestack’s mission and capabilities.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- How hiring well is essential for scaling startups and managing that scale
- Why focusing on enterprise clients can be advantageous for a startup
- Strategy for building partnerships to reach more potential customers
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting
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Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
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Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 142 - Why SaaS Pricing and Packaging Matters More Than You Think - with Dan Balcauski, Founder & Chief Pricing Officer at Product Tranquility
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
11/15/24 • 39 min
Pricing and packaging can either bog down your go-to-market engine or fuel it to peak performance.
This week’s SaaS Backwards podcast features Dan Balcauski, Founder and Chief Pricing Officer at Product Tranquility, a consultancy that helps high-volume B2B SaaS CEOs define pricing and packaging for new products.
In this episode, Dan discusses the critical role pricing plays in a SaaS business model and why leadership teams must view it as a dynamic lever, not a "set-it-and-forget-it" element. He dispels the common myth that success hinges solely on what you charge, emphasizing instead that who and how you charge are the real determinants of success.
Breaking this down, Dan walks through the four key elements of SaaS packaging: price metric, price model, offer configurations, and price fences.
Our conversation also explores how to conduct a pricing study, realigning pricing strategies, AI's role in pricing decisions, and the ever-debated topic: should pricing be displayed on the website?
This episode offers actionable insights for SaaS leaders looking to harness pricing as a powerful tool for growth and market alignment.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- The impact of pricing and packaging on revenue, profitability, and valuation
- Why pricing is a critical lever for growth in SaaS businesses that shouldn’t be overlooked
- Signs a new CMO or CRO should look for to determine if pricing needs attention at a prospective employer
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting
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Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
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Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 105 - Finding SaaS Product-Market Fit - With Anvil Co-Founder Mang-Git Ng
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
12/29/23 • 27 min
When going through a repetitive and time-consuming mortgage application process in 2017, Mang-Git Ng was surprised that the process wasn’t automated.
He realized that there were many industries that still operated in the internet dark ages and that moving all these PDFs and paper documents to online forms could solve a major problem.
But after he and his co-founder had built their initial product, they struggled to gain traction, especially with limited sales and marketing experience.
Through much experimentation, they started identifying patterns in their customer base and certain industries (like human resources workforce management and insurance) that had a need for generating, processing, and signing documents, and their product was a great solution.
By focusing on these verticals, Anvil was able to deeply understand the challenges and language used in these industries, allowing them to speak to their target customers more effectively.
Six years later, Anvil is a seven-figure ARR SaaS company that has raised $10M in funding.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- Finding patterns in your customer base that can be exploited for niche-based selling
- How to sell to companies that are resistant to change
- Why you should focus on sales and marketing early in the process
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 121 - The Art of the Exit: SaaS Strategies and Insights - with Jeremy Lessaris, CEO of Payment Brokers
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
05/03/24 • 36 min
Building a business with the intention of a future sale requires meticulous planning and organization from the outset.
In this episode, Payment Brokers Founder and CEO Jeremy Lessaris, a serial founder with multiple successful exits, emphasizes the importance of the early organization of books, records, contracts, and agreements as a critical factor in boosting valuation and streamlining the exit process.
Jeremy also stresses the significance of maintaining a well-organized data room for due diligence during a business sale. He recommends creating a dashboard with KPIs and metrics to provide a clear overview of the company's performance and demonstrate the business's progress to potential buyers.
Throughout this episode, Jeremy explains how SaaS entrepreneurs can position their companies for a seamless exit process and maximize their valuation when it comes time to sell.
This episode is ideal for SaaS CEOs and CMOs seeking strategies for accelerating growth, enhancing profitability, and understanding the importance of building a business with a focus on revenue and profitability from the start.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- Focusing on revenue generation early
- Keeping costs low while striving to reach revenue milestones
- The value of mentorship in helping entrepreneurs navigate business challenges
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
---
Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 115 - Data, Combating SaaS Churn, and Increasing Productivity - with Jason Radisson, CEO & Founder of Movo
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
03/22/24 • 36 min
In this episode, we delved into the transformative power of algorithms in business with Jason Radisson, CEO & founder of Movo, a platform that provides real-time scheduling flexibility and improved workforce management for large companies with frontline workers.
Jason recounted his time at Harrah's Entertainment, where they used data to optimize customer interactions and significantly increase profitability over others on the strip. He explains how his background in algorithmic management has influenced his approach to business models.
Jason also shares his thoughts on combatting SaaS churn by identifying the root causes and understanding customer behavior to accurately predict and deal with it proactively.
This episode covers algorithmic management, churn reduction strategies, the gig economy, and innovative solutions for optimizing workforce management. SaaS CEOs and CMOs interested in understanding the intersection of technology, workforce management, and operational efficiency would find valuable insights in this episode.
Key Takeaways from this episode:
- The importance of modeling and forecasting to drive profitability, especially in the context of reducing churn
- Building models to predict customer behavior to leverage marketing spend
- The challenges and opportunities of the gig economy
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 104 - Strategies for Maximizing Value in SaaS Exits– with Marty Magida, Managing Director of Berkery, Noyes & Co.
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
12/22/23 • 31 min
Because of the challenges in the current financing environment and the cautious approach of strategic buyers and private equity firms for SaaS companies, we invited Marty Magida on to discuss practical strategies to enhance company value and navigate the complexities of the M&A market.
Magida is the managing director of Berkery, Noyes & Co an independent investment bank providing mergers and acquisitions (M&A) advisory to middle-market leaders in the global information, software, services, and technology industries.
Marty advises listeners to stay informed about industry trends, cultivate relationships with potential buyers, and pay attention to the metrics that drive acquisitions.
It’s a must listen for all SaaS leaders that plan to raise funding, exit the business or participate in a merger or acquisition.
Key Takeaways from this episode:
- Manage risk profile by reducing concentration and striving to be asset light.
- Improve consistency of results by focusing on recurring revenue and making it costly for customers to switch.
- Maximize value by building a strong management team, ensuring reliable financial reporting, and cultivating relationships with potential buyers.
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
---
Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 99 – The Data-Driven, Revenue-Focused SaaS Marketing Leader – with Brandee Sanders, CMO of Revenue.io
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
11/29/23 • 19 min
Coming from sales positions where she’s carried quotas, Brandee Sanders knows what having skin in the game for marketers looks like.
And it’s not tracking MQLs or developing a strong tech stack.
It does look like examining the data to find repeatable opportunities for sales pipeline.
In other words, do we truly know how and why closed/won opportunities entered our orbit and what motivated them to take action to purchase?
According to Sanders, the disconnect is that “Most marketers just roll over in the morning and say, ‘Hey, I have a great idea for a campaign.’ They won't look back and say, retrospectively, ‘Is this at a target audience that we know is an ICP? Is this going to be the type of content that even performs for us? Are we going to do a video when, like, 99.9% of closed/won came through a webinar or a podcast?’”
As the new CMO of Revenue.io, Sanders immediately got entrenched in the data to find opportunities for repeatable processes that would fuel her roadmap to success.
Key Takeaways from this episode:
· How to build a roadmap to ensure your success as a new CMO/marketing leader
· Where AI is today in analyzing sales conversations and delivering real-time insights
· How the role of the CMO is evolving to become more data-driven and revenue-focused
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publish a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 139 - How SaaS B2B Companies Can Leverage Sales Calls for Content Creation - with Parthi Loganathan, Founder & CEO of Letterdrop
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
09/20/24 • 30 min
We often emphasize the importance of understanding what’s being talked about in sales conversations to shape content strategy and tell unique, compelling stories.
In this week's SaaS Backwards podcast episode, we talk with Parthi Loganathan, Founder and CEO of Letterdrop, a platform designed to help companies do just that.
Parthi explains how Letterdrop’s AI assists companies in creating content that resonates with more buyers by leveraging the language their customers actually use, cutting down the time and improving the quality of their thought leadership content.
He also shares how Letterdrop supports SDRs in delivering value and helps companies uncover and understand their customers' unmet needs.
We also discuss the ongoing shift in SEO, the growing focus on LinkedIn, and the decline of traditional outbound sales tactics such as cold calling and cold emailing.
Our conversation with Parthi offers valuable insights for SaaS CEOs, CMOs, and marketing and sales professionals in the B2B space.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- The importance of getting context and relevance right before scaling it
- Why cold calling and cold emailing no longer works
- Insights on future opportunities for content on LinkedIn
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting
---
Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 143 - Is the CRO the Key to Aligning Sales, Marketing, and Customer Success?
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
11/22/24 • 34 min
Guest: Warren Zenna, Founder of The CRO Collective
Scaling a SaaS company is no walk in the park.
At a certain point, operational complexity demands more than just growth—it demands cross-functional alignment. Enter the Chief Revenue Officer (CRO).
In this episode, we dive into the evolving role of the CRO with expert Warren Zenna, founder of The CRO Collective and Zenna Consulting Group, and host of the CRO Spotlight podcast.
Warren unpacks why misalignment between Sales, Marketing, and Customer Success persists—and how the CRO may be uniquely positioned to fix it.
Key insights you'll gain:
- What it means for a SaaS company to be “CRO-ready”
- Why scaling companies make the same costly mistakes—and how to avoid them
- Practical tips for CROs, CMOs, and CEOs to align teams and drive revenue growth
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting
---
Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
Ep. 145 - The Death of the MQL: A New Playbook for SaaS CROs
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
12/06/24 • 31 min
Guest: Randy Likas, Head of North America Go-to-Market at Nektar
Traditional marketing tactics are losing their edge, with MQLs falling short as costly, outdated signals of real buyer intent.
In this week’s episode, we explore tactics for CROs to tackle the “great ignore” with guest Randy Likas, Head of North America Go-to-Market at Nektar, a revenue efficiency platform that unifies customer interaction data and helps you discover new revenue opportunities.
Randy discusses how CROs must reevaluate their playbooks and processes, focusing on how to re-engineer strategies and redeploy technology to align with emerging trends in buyer behavior–positioning the CRO role as not just operational but transformational.
Key insights you'll gain:
- How changing buyer behaviors, like the "great ignore," are reshaping outreach strategies
- Why MQLs are losing relevance and how to focus on buying groups instead
- How breaking down silos between sales, marketing, and success boosts revenue efficiency
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting
---
Thanks for listening to the SaaS Backwards Podcast, brought to you by Austin Lawrence Group. We help SaaS firms reduce churn, accelerate sales, and generate demand. Learn more at AustinLawrence.com.
---
Is your messaging a sales ally or sneaky saboteur? Let us help with our free messaging audit.
We’ll look at your website’s messaging, content, and conversion potential from the eyes of today’s buyer and deliver a presentation with new combinations to more sales conversations and demos.
And the best part? It’s absolutely free.
Get started today!
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SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success currently has 146 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Marketing, Management, Cmo, Saas, Software, Podcasts, Business and B2B.
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The episode title 'Ep. 120 - The Role of AI in SaaS Solutions: A Deep Dive - with Brandon Most, Head of Marketing at GoLinks' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success is 30 minutes.
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Episodes of SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success are typically released every 7 days, 1 hour.
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The first episode of SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success was released on Oct 30, 2020.
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