
Sarah Priscus Talks Her Novel ‘Groupies’ & Legendary Super Groupie Pamela Des Barres Talks the L.A. Music Scene in the ‘60s and ‘70s
12/29/22 • 95 min
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Hello, Lit Listeners. I hope you’re all geared up to party with the bands in this episode’s rock novel, because you’ve got a backstage pass and VIP access. Sarah Priscus is here to talk about her new novel, ‘Groupies’, a story that shines a light on the grungy yet glittery world of 1970s Los Angeles rock 'n roll and the women—the groupies—who unapologetically love too much in a world that doesn’t love them back.
Later, who else is better qualified to give real-world context to this very topic than the fabulous Super Groupie, member of Frank Zappa’s GTOs, and talented writer and podcaster, Pamela Des Barres? That’s right, Miss Pamela herself joins me during the last segment of the show, so break out your groovy boas and hot pants and drop some far-out vinyl on the turn table. You’re all with the band tonight.
FYI: Check out my full uncut YouTube video interview with Pamela Des Barres in the Rock is Lit Vault.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
Sarah and I talk about
- What she and Suzi Quatro have in common
- Sarah’s experience writing and publishing her debut novel
- Overview of plot and characters of ‘Groupies’
- The setting of ‘Groupies’: Los Angeles in the late 1970s
- The early seasons of SNL as part of Sarah’s research into the era/other research Sarah did for the novel, including watching ‘Almost Famous’ again
- Sarah’s long love affair with Pamela Des Barres’ seminal memoir ‘I’m With the Band’
- Led Zeppelin references in the novel and our shared love of the band
- Groupie definitions and rules, as presented in the novel ‘Groupies’
- Feminism and groupie culture in the 1970s/the Baby Groupie issue
- Instant gratification and the 1970s and Polaroid cameras, which the character Faun uses
Pamela and I talk about
- How and when she first got into the L.A. music scene
- Who christened each of the GTOs “Miss”
- The kazillion rock icons she’s known, including Frank Zappa, The Byrds, Gram Parsons, Led Zeppelin, The Stones, Love, Three Dog Night, Gene Simmons, Keith Moon
- The GTOs' album ‘Permanent Damage’, which Frank Zappa produced
- The L.A. scene in the ‘60s and ‘70s
- Baby Groupies of the 1970s
- The first time Pamela heard the word “groupie” and her definition of the word
- ‘I’m With the Band’ and some of the ridiculous comments people—especially early interviewers—have made
- Pamela’s ex-husband Michael Des Barres’ thoughts on ‘I’m With the Band’
- How Gram Parsons turned her onto Country music
MUSIC IN THE EPISODE IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE:
- 1970’s Retro Background Music (Royalty Free)
- “Our Last Summer” by ABBA
- “Mrs. Robinson” by Simon & Garfunkel
- “It’s Only Rock ‘N’ Roll” by The Rolling Stones
- Clip of early SNL opening
- “Life in the Fast Lane” by The Eagles
- “Whole Lotta Love” by Led Zeppelin
- “I Am Woman” by Helen Reddy
- “We Shall Go Forth” by Margie Adam
- “Hey Ya!” by OutKast
- “Famous Groupies” by Paul McCartney
- “I’m In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man” by The GTOs
- “Shock Treatment” by The GTOs, featuring Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart
- “Sixteen and Savaged” by Silverhead
- “Christine’s Tune” by The Flying Burrito Brothers
- “Mystery Roach” by Frank Zappa and The Mothers
LINKS:
Sarah Priscus’s website: https://sarahpriscus.com/
Sarah on Twitter, @sarahpriscus
Sarah on Instagram, @sarah.priscus
Pamela Des Barres’ website: https://www.pameladesbarresofficial.com/
Pamela on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, @PamelaDesBarres
Christy Alexander Hallberg’s website: https://www.christyalexanderhallberg.com/
Christy Alexander Hallberg on Twitter, @ChristyHallberg
Christy Alexander Hallberg on Instagram, @christyhallberg
Christy Alexander Hallberg’s YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfSnRmlL5moSQYi6EjSvqag
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Hello, Lit Listeners. I hope you’re all geared up to party with the bands in this episode’s rock novel, because you’ve got a backstage pass and VIP access. Sarah Priscus is here to talk about her new novel, ‘Groupies’, a story that shines a light on the grungy yet glittery world of 1970s Los Angeles rock 'n roll and the women—the groupies—who unapologetically love too much in a world that doesn’t love them back.
Later, who else is better qualified to give real-world context to this very topic than the fabulous Super Groupie, member of Frank Zappa’s GTOs, and talented writer and podcaster, Pamela Des Barres? That’s right, Miss Pamela herself joins me during the last segment of the show, so break out your groovy boas and hot pants and drop some far-out vinyl on the turn table. You’re all with the band tonight.
FYI: Check out my full uncut YouTube video interview with Pamela Des Barres in the Rock is Lit Vault.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
Sarah and I talk about
- What she and Suzi Quatro have in common
- Sarah’s experience writing and publishing her debut novel
- Overview of plot and characters of ‘Groupies’
- The setting of ‘Groupies’: Los Angeles in the late 1970s
- The early seasons of SNL as part of Sarah’s research into the era/other research Sarah did for the novel, including watching ‘Almost Famous’ again
- Sarah’s long love affair with Pamela Des Barres’ seminal memoir ‘I’m With the Band’
- Led Zeppelin references in the novel and our shared love of the band
- Groupie definitions and rules, as presented in the novel ‘Groupies’
- Feminism and groupie culture in the 1970s/the Baby Groupie issue
- Instant gratification and the 1970s and Polaroid cameras, which the character Faun uses
Pamela and I talk about
- How and when she first got into the L.A. music scene
- Who christened each of the GTOs “Miss”
- The kazillion rock icons she’s known, including Frank Zappa, The Byrds, Gram Parsons, Led Zeppelin, The Stones, Love, Three Dog Night, Gene Simmons, Keith Moon
- The GTOs' album ‘Permanent Damage’, which Frank Zappa produced
- The L.A. scene in the ‘60s and ‘70s
- Baby Groupies of the 1970s
- The first time Pamela heard the word “groupie” and her definition of the word
- ‘I’m With the Band’ and some of the ridiculous comments people—especially early interviewers—have made
- Pamela’s ex-husband Michael Des Barres’ thoughts on ‘I’m With the Band’
- How Gram Parsons turned her onto Country music
MUSIC IN THE EPISODE IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE:
- 1970’s Retro Background Music (Royalty Free)
- “Our Last Summer” by ABBA
- “Mrs. Robinson” by Simon & Garfunkel
- “It’s Only Rock ‘N’ Roll” by The Rolling Stones
- Clip of early SNL opening
- “Life in the Fast Lane” by The Eagles
- “Whole Lotta Love” by Led Zeppelin
- “I Am Woman” by Helen Reddy
- “We Shall Go Forth” by Margie Adam
- “Hey Ya!” by OutKast
- “Famous Groupies” by Paul McCartney
- “I’m In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man” by The GTOs
- “Shock Treatment” by The GTOs, featuring Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart
- “Sixteen and Savaged” by Silverhead
- “Christine’s Tune” by The Flying Burrito Brothers
- “Mystery Roach” by Frank Zappa and The Mothers
LINKS:
Sarah Priscus’s website: https://sarahpriscus.com/
Sarah on Twitter, @sarahpriscus
Sarah on Instagram, @sarah.priscus
Pamela Des Barres’ website: https://www.pameladesbarresofficial.com/
Pamela on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, @PamelaDesBarres
Christy Alexander Hallberg’s website: https://www.christyalexanderhallberg.com/
Christy Alexander Hallberg on Twitter, @ChristyHallberg
Christy Alexander Hallberg on Instagram, @christyhallberg
Christy Alexander Hallberg’s YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfSnRmlL5moSQYi6EjSvqag
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Robert Duncan, Former Editor of ‘CREEM’ Magazine & Author of the Rock Novel ‘Loudmouth’, On Lester Bangs, Ron Wood & Keith Richards, Springsteen, & More!
Hello, Lit Listeners. If you dig the crazy, down-and-dirty (and deafening), let-it-all-hang out, have-a-nice-day, far out 1970s, you’re in for a treat. Music journalist-cum-rock novelist Robert Duncan is here doing double duty as both author and music guru—because why wouldn’t he?—and he dishes on some folks whose records are in your collection. You DON’T want to miss this episode!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
- The blurred lines between the novel ‘Loudmouth’ and Robert’s real life
- Robert’s wild boy big brother—“the original rock ‘n roll guy”—Rusty
- Scratch inspections and Robert’s friend with a special talent at summer camp (get ready to laugh)
- Robert and I playing a drinking game on the episode, and the phrase I coined for it
- Robert having tea with Lester Bangs at MC5’s Rob Tyner’s house
- Getting drunk at Patti Smith’s and Allen Lanier’s apartment near Washington Square in NYC with Jim Carroll, author of ‘The Basketball Diaries’
- How Robert became a music journalist and got the job at ‘CREEM’
- Lester Bangs—and Philip Seymour Hoffman’s portrayal of him in ‘Almost Famous’
- The time Legs McNeil took the last beer from Robert’s NYC apartment fridge and Robert and Lester’s subsequent fight
- The day Lester died
- Robert’s interactions with various rock stars, including Ron Wood and Keith Richards, Iggy Pop and David Bowie, KISS, Ozzy Osbourne, The Clash, etc.
- Partying at Liza Minnelli’s apartment in NYC with tons of celebrities
- Driving around Cleveland with a young Bruce Springsteen
- The tragic genesis of the novel ‘Loudmouth’
- Robert Duncan’s one and only Jimmy Page encounter
MUSIC IN THE EPISODE IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE:
- [No Copyright Music] Retro ‘70s Funky Jazz-Hop Instrumental (Copyright Free) Music—Funkman
- The Beatles—Live at Shea Stadium, New York (August 23, 1966)—cheering
- “My Foolish Heart” by Bill Evans
- “I Am A Scientist” by Guided By Voices
- “Hound Dog” by Elvis Presley
- “Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh!” by Allan Sherman
- “I Touch Myself” by the Divinyls
- “I Wanna Be Your Dog” by The Stooges
- ‘Metal Machine Music’ by Lou Reed
- “Holy Ghost” by Albert Ayler
- “Breathe On Me” by The New Barbarians, live 1979 Washington, DC
- “Detroit Rock City” by KISS
- “Upside Down” by Diana Ross
- “The River” by Bruce Springsteen
- Clip of Jimmy Page talking to Robert Duncan
- “Tommy’s Holiday Camp” by The Who
- “Rock and Roll Radio” by The Ramones
LINKS:
Robert Duncan’s website, https://www.duncanwrites.com/
Robert Duncan on Twitter, @robertduncansf
Robert Duncan on Instagram, @rduncansf
Robert Duncan on Mastodon, @[email protected]
Christy Alexander Hallberg’s website: https://www.christyalexanderhallberg.com/
Christy Alexander Hallberg on Twitter, @ChristyHallberg
Christy Alexander Hallberg on Instagram, @christyhallberg
Christy Alexander Hallberg’s YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfSnRmlL5moSQYi6EjSvqag
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Rock is Lit Bonus Episode: Pamela Des Barres Full Video Interview Intro
We said goodbye to 2022 and Season One of Rock is Lit last week. To celebrate the coming of Season Two, here's a brief recap of Season One, a thank you to all the folks who helped make the podcast happen, intro to Season Two, and an intro to the full video interview I conducted with legendary groupie Pamela Des Barres for the Season One Finale/Episode 17. Use the link below to view the YouTube video. Happy New Year, Lit Listeners!
YouTube interview with Pamela Des Barres: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlutwO7WMzk
Rock is Lit Vault: https://www.christyalexanderhallberg.com/podcast-vault-feed/pameladesbarres
Christy Alexander Hallberg's website: https://www.christyalexanderhallberg.com/
Christy Alexander Hallberg on Twitter/Instagram: @christyhallberg
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