
EP25 Scott Kelly: Rewilding Health
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04/26/21 • 65 min
We spoke with Scott Kelly, a wellbeing expert, and good friend, about what it means to rewild our physical health.
Scott talks about the importance of moving beyond our cultural obsession with symptomology, and no longer viewing symptoms as purely inconveniences but rather invitations from the body to see something different. And while it can be helpful to have a label for something, we tend to hold labels as static information about ourselves rather than seeing our condition as constantly evolving and changing.
In our fast-paced society, we rarely slow down enough to expand in consciousness and get a sense of what we really need. We want to rid ourselves of symptoms so we can get on our way, but our symptoms have messages for us that our bodies desperately want us to hear. The body has an innate intelligence and often our symptoms are indications that our body is working on healing.
Angus and Rohini relay their own health-related stories and how seeing deeper into their true nature was what ultimately healed them both. There is a key difference between being cured and being healed, and sometimes feeling better doesn't mean we've healed, while other times our symptoms haven't changed at all and yet we find healing.
Scott's message to all of us weathering this pandemic is that COVID-19 has been an invitation to get back to nature; as nature has been given a chance to rewild with less human activity, people have also been given a chance to rewild and listen more deeply to the mind, body, and soul.
This episode explores:
- The importance of slowing down
- Physical symptoms as an invitation to expand in consciousness
- Trusting in nature
- Trying to heal while caught in a stressed state of mind is impossible
Show notes:
Poos clues: Angus's innovative take on the popular children's TV show, "Blues Clues"
Listen for the "but": We often start the sentence with "but" when we're getting ready to advocate for our limitations
Scott Kelly has spent over 25 years as a health coach, mentor, and integrative health practitioner, reconnecting individuals to their innate health and well-being. State of mind coaching is the foundation of his integrative health and well-being programs and he works with professional athletes, couples, families, teams, corporations, and individuals. His approach wakes up our innate capacity to live, work, perform, and play from inner vitality. Scott delivers live and virtual workshops and retreats, leaving participants with a new understanding of their health, well-being, and potential. Learn more about Scott's work here.
Angus & Rohini Ross are “The Rewilders.” They love working with couples and helping them to reduce conflict and discord in their relationships. They co-facilitate individualized couples' intensives that rewild relationships back to their natural state of love. Rohini is the author of the ebook Marriage, and they are co-founders of The 29-Day Rewilding Experience and The Rewilding Community. You can also follow Angus and Rohini Ross on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. To learn more about their work visit: therewilders.org.
Episode 25 features the music of RhythmPharm with Los Angeles-based composer Greg Ellis.
We spoke with Scott Kelly, a wellbeing expert, and good friend, about what it means to rewild our physical health.
Scott talks about the importance of moving beyond our cultural obsession with symptomology, and no longer viewing symptoms as purely inconveniences but rather invitations from the body to see something different. And while it can be helpful to have a label for something, we tend to hold labels as static information about ourselves rather than seeing our condition as constantly evolving and changing.
In our fast-paced society, we rarely slow down enough to expand in consciousness and get a sense of what we really need. We want to rid ourselves of symptoms so we can get on our way, but our symptoms have messages for us that our bodies desperately want us to hear. The body has an innate intelligence and often our symptoms are indications that our body is working on healing.
Angus and Rohini relay their own health-related stories and how seeing deeper into their true nature was what ultimately healed them both. There is a key difference between being cured and being healed, and sometimes feeling better doesn't mean we've healed, while other times our symptoms haven't changed at all and yet we find healing.
Scott's message to all of us weathering this pandemic is that COVID-19 has been an invitation to get back to nature; as nature has been given a chance to rewild with less human activity, people have also been given a chance to rewild and listen more deeply to the mind, body, and soul.
This episode explores:
- The importance of slowing down
- Physical symptoms as an invitation to expand in consciousness
- Trusting in nature
- Trying to heal while caught in a stressed state of mind is impossible
Show notes:
Poos clues: Angus's innovative take on the popular children's TV show, "Blues Clues"
Listen for the "but": We often start the sentence with "but" when we're getting ready to advocate for our limitations
Scott Kelly has spent over 25 years as a health coach, mentor, and integrative health practitioner, reconnecting individuals to their innate health and well-being. State of mind coaching is the foundation of his integrative health and well-being programs and he works with professional athletes, couples, families, teams, corporations, and individuals. His approach wakes up our innate capacity to live, work, perform, and play from inner vitality. Scott delivers live and virtual workshops and retreats, leaving participants with a new understanding of their health, well-being, and potential. Learn more about Scott's work here.
Angus & Rohini Ross are “The Rewilders.” They love working with couples and helping them to reduce conflict and discord in their relationships. They co-facilitate individualized couples' intensives that rewild relationships back to their natural state of love. Rohini is the author of the ebook Marriage, and they are co-founders of The 29-Day Rewilding Experience and The Rewilding Community. You can also follow Angus and Rohini Ross on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. To learn more about their work visit: therewilders.org.
Episode 25 features the music of RhythmPharm with Los Angeles-based composer Greg Ellis.
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EP 24: Greg Ellis: Off the Clicktrack
World-renowned musician, Greg Ellis discusses the symbiosis between organic music and rewilding. Rewilding anything means we're allowing its natural process to take over. And this is what Greg has done with his music, creating pure instrumental tonics in a sea of synthetic, mechanized sounds.
In the music studio, musicians are bound to a click track (digital metronome), which actively measures the time/tempo of the track. This device stifles the drummer's natural rhythmic sensibilities and requires they focus on synthetic time vs. playing in harmony with the other instruments. Greg works off the click track, developing musical tonics he dubbed Rhythmpharm to symbolize the healing power of organic sound. Music, when played with pure honesty, can impact the listener instantly on the cellular level.
Unlike in the studio, and on our phones and tablets, nature doesn't adhere to a standardized, mechanical time. Humans have developed a toxic relationship with time and our creativity and sense of peace are diminished as a result. But when we tune ourselves to the frequency of our true nature, we can flourish naturally. This is why being fully present is so powerful, our true nature knows no time.
This episode also explores:
- Evolving from self-help to self-discovery; we don't need help, we need to know who we are
- Adversity shows us our capacity for resilience
- Every disaster brings out the best in people
- The optimism of humanity
- Adhering to a complementary frequency of understanding with our partners
- Acknowledging the darkness we inhabit so we can be in balance with it
Show Notes
Smorgasbord: Rohini was right, it is spelled with a "d" and it is Swedish, not German.
Click track: digital metronome and metaphor for the clock controlling us all
Farm-to-table music: music before it became overly processed
Odd time signature: an odd amount of beats per measure, can be simplified into a righteous groove.
Trance: a tempo between 135–150 bpm that can lead to a state of hypnotism and heightened consciousness
Greg Ellis is one of the more innovative and versatile drummers in the world. Able to cross multiple genres of music from Indian classical to rock and roll, he has performed and recorded with musical artists from over 30 countries including Zakir Hussain, Mickey Hart, Kodo, Billy Idol, and Juno Reactor. As a passionate advocate of the healing and therapeutic properties of rhythm and drumming, he founded a project called RhythmPharm as a way to encourage the importance of organic rhythm and frequency through recordings and live sessions. Learn more about Greg and his incredible work here.
Angus & Rohini Ross are “The Rewilders.” They love working with couples and helping them to reduce conflict and discord in their relationships. They co-facilitate individualized couples' intensives that rewild relationships back to their natural state of love. Rohini is the author of the ebook Marriage, and they are co-founders of The 29-Day Rewilding Experience and The Rewilding Community. You can also follow Angus and Rohini Ross on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. To learn more about their work visit: therewilders.org.
Episode 24 features the music of RhythmPharm with Los Angeles-based composer Greg Ellis.
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EP26: Lainie Barrett: Rewilding Gender
Lainie Barrett (they/them) shares with us how this understanding has impacted both their mental health, through expanded consciousness, and their gender journey, by rewilding to their true nature.
Lainie recently came out as trans/non-binary and shares with us about the dissonance they have always felt between how they feel inside and the female gender they were assigned at birth. Historically, they've repressed or ignored this feeling, deciding that they should expand what it means to be a woman, but have recently begun to answer the call of the feeling and dis-identify with their assigned gender. They hold this as an ongoing exploration that could require more "coming outs" as they keep shedding what doesn't feel true for them.
We explore how empowerment comes from the inside, and how this is Lainie stepping into their authentic and true self, opening the door for others to do the same by sharing their story. Lainie clarifies some LGBTQIA terminology, and reminds us that being queer and/or trans can be (and often is) joyful, it's the marginalization from the dominant culture that creates undue pain (including the denial of gender-affirming care).
This episode explores:
- Gender as a construct
- Consciousness-expanding experiences
- The rules we create for ourselves and the boxes we form
- Rewilding as a stripping-away process of what no longer serves us
- Queer joy
Show Notes
The first rule of "Fight Club": you do not talk about Fight Club.
Cisgender: denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex. "Cis" in Latin means "on the side of" and is used as shorthand for cisgender.
The Lowly Worm: A character in the 1980s children book series by Richard Scarry, also a term of endearment for Lainie's partner.
Lainie Barrett is a freshly minted Rewilding Guide and social media manager for the Rewilders' brand. They have a master's degree in clinical mental health counseling which is put to good use in their coaching work. Lainie has explored the three principles via many different practitioners since 2014 and is now a member of the Rewilding Community. Their approach to everything in life is to show up just as themself, leading the way for others to do the same. They recently came out as trans/non-binary and enjoy talking about their experience to educate and inform others on this important aspect of identity and self-discovery.
Angus & Rohini Ross are “The Rewilders.” They love working with couples and helping them to reduce conflict and discord in their relationships. They co-facilitate individualized couples' intensives that rewild relationships back to their natural state of love. Rohini is the author of the ebook Marriage, and they are co-founders of The 29-Day Rewilding Experience and The Rewilding Community. You can also follow Angus and Rohini Ross on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. To learn more about their work visit: therewilders.org.
Episode 26 features the music of RhythmPharm with Los Angeles-based composer Greg Ellis.
Rewilding Love - EP25 Scott Kelly: Rewilding Health
Transcript
Welcome to Rewilding Love, this season is with a couple on the brink of divorce.
Rohini RossThis is episode number 25. An interview with Scott Kelly,
Scott Kellyas a human race have kind of gone really far downstream and kind of getting tangled in symptomology.
Rohini RossNot all physical illness is cured. But I
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