
Ep. 018 | Lead Your Church Out of Maintenance Mode | Dan Reiland
03/15/25 • 43 min
Lead Your Church Out Of Maintenance Mode
Signs Your Church May Be in Maintenance Mode with Dan Reiland
Episode Overview In this episode, Bart interviews Dan Reiland, an experienced executive pastor and church leadership coach, about identifying and addressing church stagnation. Dan shares insights from his article "Seven Signs That Your Church May Be In Maintenance Mode" and provides practical guidance for church leaders looking to move their churches forward. Guest Bio- Dan Reiland is a veteran executive pastor with over four decades of experience
- Served as John Maxwell's first and only executive pastor
- Spent 23 years at Twelve Stone Church in Atlanta
- Currently transitioning to full-time coaching and consulting
- Originally studied criminal justice and worked briefly as a private investigator before entering ministry
- Married for 43 years with two children and three grandchildren
- Known guitar enthusiast with a collection of 18-19 guitars
- Definition: "An ongoing and unaddressed holding pattern in momentum or attendance"
- Simplified definition: Being "stuck"
- Key indicators include:
- No longer taking risks
- Vision isn't compelling or clearly defined
- Working hard but not making progress
- Not reaching new people
- What's my leadership lid? Where do I need to grow?
- Who's my coach/mentor?
- How am I a better leader this year than last year?
1. Emphasizing Discipleship Over Evangelism
- Churches naturally gravitate toward discipleship
- Need to maintain balance between discipleship and evangelism
- Leaders typically lean toward one or the other
- Must intentionally fight to keep evangelism as a priority
- Many churches try to do too many things
- Need for a "lean church" model
- No church can do everything effectively
- Focus on God's specific "thumbprint" for your church
- Put a moratorium on new ministries
- Conduct a ministry audit
- Evaluate productivity and alignment with vision
- Question why each ministry exists
- Consider better alternatives
- Go slow
- Honor people
- Invite them into something new
- Accept that meaningful change will create some opposition
- "If you change something in your church and nobody gets mad, you've just changed something that doesn't matter"
- Develop leaders before delegating responsibilities
- Start with who you have
- Never underestimate the power of one leader
- Development takes time - embrace the "awkward zone"
- Focus on developing a few leaders while handling many tasks
- Ministry is worth it - don't give up
- What you're doing matters
- Focus on "one more" - one new leader, one person saved
- Progress can be incremental
- God is pleased with faithful progress, even if it's one person at a time
- Dan's website: danreiland.com
- Contains articles and several books
- All articles are freely available
Lead Your Church Out Of Maintenance Mode
Signs Your Church May Be in Maintenance Mode with Dan Reiland
Episode Overview In this episode, Bart interviews Dan Reiland, an experienced executive pastor and church leadership coach, about identifying and addressing church stagnation. Dan shares insights from his article "Seven Signs That Your Church May Be In Maintenance Mode" and provides practical guidance for church leaders looking to move their churches forward. Guest Bio- Dan Reiland is a veteran executive pastor with over four decades of experience
- Served as John Maxwell's first and only executive pastor
- Spent 23 years at Twelve Stone Church in Atlanta
- Currently transitioning to full-time coaching and consulting
- Originally studied criminal justice and worked briefly as a private investigator before entering ministry
- Married for 43 years with two children and three grandchildren
- Known guitar enthusiast with a collection of 18-19 guitars
- Definition: "An ongoing and unaddressed holding pattern in momentum or attendance"
- Simplified definition: Being "stuck"
- Key indicators include:
- No longer taking risks
- Vision isn't compelling or clearly defined
- Working hard but not making progress
- Not reaching new people
- What's my leadership lid? Where do I need to grow?
- Who's my coach/mentor?
- How am I a better leader this year than last year?
1. Emphasizing Discipleship Over Evangelism
- Churches naturally gravitate toward discipleship
- Need to maintain balance between discipleship and evangelism
- Leaders typically lean toward one or the other
- Must intentionally fight to keep evangelism as a priority
- Many churches try to do too many things
- Need for a "lean church" model
- No church can do everything effectively
- Focus on God's specific "thumbprint" for your church
- Put a moratorium on new ministries
- Conduct a ministry audit
- Evaluate productivity and alignment with vision
- Question why each ministry exists
- Consider better alternatives
- Go slow
- Honor people
- Invite them into something new
- Accept that meaningful change will create some opposition
- "If you change something in your church and nobody gets mad, you've just changed something that doesn't matter"
- Develop leaders before delegating responsibilities
- Start with who you have
- Never underestimate the power of one leader
- Development takes time - embrace the "awkward zone"
- Focus on developing a few leaders while handling many tasks
- Ministry is worth it - don't give up
- What you're doing matters
- Focus on "one more" - one new leader, one person saved
- Progress can be incremental
- God is pleased with faithful progress, even if it's one person at a time
- Dan's website: danreiland.com
- Contains articles and several books
- All articles are freely available
Previous Episode

Ep. 017 | Evangelism and Outreach | 6 Principles of Effective Evangelism
Episode 17: Show Notes The 6 Core Principles of Effective Church Evangelism - Revitalize My Church Podcast What Are the Most Effective Principles for Church Evangelism and Outreach? In this episode of Revitalize My Church, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss six foundational principles for effective church evangelism. These principles are designed to help church leaders develop a more strategic and sustainable approach to reaching their communities.
Why Do Traditional Church Evangelism Methods Often Fail?
Nathan shares his early experiences with evangelism, including teaching Evangelism Explosion classes where dozens made decisions for Christ but none became active church members. This led him to develop a more relationship-based, process-oriented approach to evangelism.
What Are the Six Core Principles of Effective Church Evangelism?
1. Evangelism is a Process, Not an Event
- Most people come to faith through a journey rather than a single moment
- The farming metaphor in the New Testament illustrates this principle
- God works through multiple touchpoints and interactions over time
- Events can be part of the process but shouldn't be seen as the whole strategy
- Focus on helping people understand who Jesus is before asking for a decision
- Avoid the "get out of hell free" prayer mentality
- Success is measured by transformed lives, not just prayers prayed
- Biblical example: Jesus' command was to make disciples, not just converts
- Christians need to be "salt and light" in real relationships
- Restructure life to naturally engage with non-believers
- Community involvement creates opportunities for spiritual conversations
- Balance Christian fellowship with intentional outreach relationships
- Lead with God's desire for relationship rather than consequences
- Heaven and hell are real but secondary to the relationship aspect
- Reference John 17:3 - eternal life is knowing God
- Focus on adoption into God's family (John 1)
- The Great Commission was given to the disciples collectively
- Different gifts work together in evangelism just as in other ministries
- Team approach allows people to use their natural strengths
- No one person needs to carry the full weight of evangelism
- The Holy Spirit works through Scripture, people, and circumstances
- Be sensitive to the Spirit's leading in each situation
- Methods and scripts are tools, not rigid rules
- Prayer and spiritual sensitivity should guide outreach efforts
This episode is part of a four-part series on evangelism and outreach. Future episodes will cover:
- Exegeting your community
- Five pillars of effective outreach strategy
- Engagement and assimilation in the church
Next Episode

Ep. 019 | Outreach and Evangelism | The Farming Model of Evangelism
Episode Summary
In this episode, Bart and Nathan discuss the "Farming Model" of evangelism, building on principles shared in Episode 17. They explore a strategic approach to both individual and corporate evangelism based on the parable of the seed from Matthew 13. Hosts:
- Bart Blair
- Nathan Bryant (Executive Director of Assist Church Expansion)
Key Points
The Need for Evangelism- A 2021 LifeWay research study found 71% of people are open to hearing someone's life story when meeting them for the first time
- In the UK, 75% of non-Christians who had conversations with Christian friends about Jesus felt comfortable, and 33% wanted to know more
- Only 55% of non-Christians who knew a Christian said that person had ever talked about their faith
- Choosing the Field
- Identifying who God is calling you to reach
- Focus on relationships where ongoing connection is possible
- Consider both individual relationships and corporate community focus
- Preparing the Soil (90% of the work)
- Removing obstacles to faith through building relationships
- Addressing sociological barriers rather than just theological ones
- Creating connections between non-believers and multiple Christians
- Building spiritual momentum through relational momentum
- Listening more and talking less
- Planting the Seed
- Sharing the Word of God, specifically about Jesus and the gospel
- Creating the right environment for growth
- Cultivating
- Giving time for the message to grow and mature
- Not rushing to "close the deal" prematurely
- Creating the best circumstances for spiritual growth
- Harvesting
- Picking the fruit when it's ripe
- Recognizing when someone is ready to make a decision
- Creating a "Greenhouse" Environment
- Evangelistic Bible study approach (5-7 weeks)
- Elements needed: Word of God, prayer, connection to believers, gifted teachers
- Research shows significantly higher retention rates with this approach
- Churches need a clear process and strategy
- Leveraging different spiritual gifts within the church body
- Providing clear pathways for members to connect non-believers
- Working as a team to reach the community
- Book: "The Soul Winning Church" by J.A. Metters
- Previous Episode: #17 on the principles of evangelism
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