A New Perspective in Medical Education— Dr. Mark Schuster, MD. Ph.D.
03/26/19 • 36 min
A physician, scientist, educator, and advocate for healthy families and communities, Dr. Mark Schuster is an international leader on quality of care, health disparities, and prevention. Author of two books and more than 200 journal articles, Dr. Schuster was appointed founding Dean and CEO of the Kaiser Permanente School of Medicine in 2017. The school is set to open its doors to an inaugural class of aspiring clinicians this year.
As talk of graduate medical education reform continues to reverberate in the healthcare community, Kaiser Permanente is betting on a more integrated approach that brings students into a large health system at the very beginning of their training, with an emphasis on primary care, prevention, and innovation.
Key takeaways:
[:30] Dr. Mark Schuster career briefing.
[1:37] Why is Dr. Schuster a “man to watch”?
[2:14] Uniqueness about Kaiser Permanente.
[4:10] A school focused on medical education with the most effective approach
[5:29] What is wrong with the current medical education?
[6:38] What does Dr. Schuster wish he had learned in his medical training?
[8:54] Changes Kaiser Permanente is implementing in the ways students are learning.
[9:29] Integrating foundational science, clinical science, and health system science.
[11:52] Spiral approach.
[12:13] No cadaver labs.
[14:03] Does being in direct contact with a body provide a level of humanism?
[14:16] Medical students in the first year will be with physicians and the medical team, seeing patients in a primary care setting.
[17:05] Tackling social determinants of health in medical education.
[20::30] The power of each individual physician as a local advocate
[22:53] Role of physicians in gun violence.
[24:20] Burnout, training for doctors to keep their own self-care.
[25:48] Students connected to faculty.
[26:19] Regular consultations of students with a psychologist
[27:15] Academic support.
[27:50] Encouraging students to take breaks
[28:12] REACH weeks.
[29:50] Are we going soft?
[33:07] Being a dean of a medical school.
[34:44] Rapid fire questions
Mentioned in this Episode:
Relational Rounds at Primary Care Progress
A physician, scientist, educator, and advocate for healthy families and communities, Dr. Mark Schuster is an international leader on quality of care, health disparities, and prevention. Author of two books and more than 200 journal articles, Dr. Schuster was appointed founding Dean and CEO of the Kaiser Permanente School of Medicine in 2017. The school is set to open its doors to an inaugural class of aspiring clinicians this year.
As talk of graduate medical education reform continues to reverberate in the healthcare community, Kaiser Permanente is betting on a more integrated approach that brings students into a large health system at the very beginning of their training, with an emphasis on primary care, prevention, and innovation.
Key takeaways:
[:30] Dr. Mark Schuster career briefing.
[1:37] Why is Dr. Schuster a “man to watch”?
[2:14] Uniqueness about Kaiser Permanente.
[4:10] A school focused on medical education with the most effective approach
[5:29] What is wrong with the current medical education?
[6:38] What does Dr. Schuster wish he had learned in his medical training?
[8:54] Changes Kaiser Permanente is implementing in the ways students are learning.
[9:29] Integrating foundational science, clinical science, and health system science.
[11:52] Spiral approach.
[12:13] No cadaver labs.
[14:03] Does being in direct contact with a body provide a level of humanism?
[14:16] Medical students in the first year will be with physicians and the medical team, seeing patients in a primary care setting.
[17:05] Tackling social determinants of health in medical education.
[20::30] The power of each individual physician as a local advocate
[22:53] Role of physicians in gun violence.
[24:20] Burnout, training for doctors to keep their own self-care.
[25:48] Students connected to faculty.
[26:19] Regular consultations of students with a psychologist
[27:15] Academic support.
[27:50] Encouraging students to take breaks
[28:12] REACH weeks.
[29:50] Are we going soft?
[33:07] Being a dean of a medical school.
[34:44] Rapid fire questions
Mentioned in this Episode:
Relational Rounds at Primary Care Progress
Previous Episode
The Wright Center’s residency program keeps advocacy at the core — Patrick Kinner and Nickia King, DO
Elizabeth Metraux is having two thoughtful conversations at Unity Health Care in Washington, DC, a Teaching Health Center connected with The Wright Center for Graduate Medical Education. She speaks with Patrick Kinner and Dr. Nickia King about the gap between what is taught in medical schools and the realities of daily practice, particularly the social determinants of health.
Patrick Kinner is an evaluator with the Vermont Department of Health and the Center for Behavioral Health Integration, where he lends his evaluation expertise to statewide and national population health initiatives. Patrick shares his views on medical school programs, burnout, and the length healthcare providers go to take care of patients.
Nickia King, DO, is a third-year family medicine resident at Unity Health Care. She discusses her experience as a Wright Center resident working in community healthcare, the role of advocacy in care, and ways providers can address the myriad problems of illness that go far beyond the walls of the clinic.
This episode aims to raise awareness about the work of Teaching Health Centers, a crucial part of the solution for moving American healthcare forward. Listen to this inspiring episode for a fresh perspective and a promising future for healthcare.
Key takeaways:
[:30] Partnership with The Wright Center for Graduate Medical Education.
[2:05] Teaching Health Centers’ purpose and impact.
[2:30] Unity Health Care
[4:21] Patrick Kinner’s work motivation.
[5:14] Bringing a family residency program into underserved areas.
[6:15] Consistent themes nationwide.
[7:31] Difference between what school prepares you for and what your actual job is.
[8:22] Medicals schools are not well-equipped to be nimble and change.
[8:53] Differences between DO and MD programs.
[10:22] Burnout and professional disengagement
[11:30] Reaching a saturation point.
[12:37] Mental health clinicians’ burnout rates.
[16:02] Patrick Kinner’s insights about himself as a patient.
[20:16] Healthcare providers have been self-diagnosed and self-treated for decades, as well as treating issues that should not be presented to them.
[22:04] Big public institutions reflect the community that they are in.
[23:58] Nickia career briefing.
[24:18] What brought Nickia into medicine?
[24:50] Washington, DC living experience.
[26:08] Why working at a community health center?
[28:23] Focusing on advocacy
[28:57] Nickia started teaching in health centers.
[31:12] Access to healthy food, safety, and education.
[32:45] What ought we to do as providers? Take care of the whole person.
[34:22] Social determinants of health.
[34:56:] Statistics about black individuals’ health.
[36:44] Prison population
[38:43] What did the experience in DC teach Nickia about herself?
[40:01] Nickia starting to work in the prison system.
[40:52] Crying for the first time with a patient.
[44:24] Treating both the illness and the illness experience.
[44:59] Humanism in medicine.
[46:50] Coming from a long line of strong women.
[48:47] Seven months away from getting out of residency, what are Nickia’s plans for the future?
[49:37] Preventing burnout.
[50:07] What does Nickia wish she would have known in her first year of residency?
[52:06] Advice to young black women who are considering a career in medicine.
Mentioned in this Episode:
Relational Rounds at Primary Care Progress
Next Episode
A Team to Fix HealthCare — Stephanie Bartz, Curtis Mock, Todd Staub, and Kay Stevens Madler from OptumCare
The statistics are now known by everyone: by September 2018 it was reported by the Physicians Foundation that 78% of doctors are presenting symptoms of burnout. Physicians have the highest rates of suicide in the nation; interns experience a 10-fold increase in depression during the first year of internship; it is a very tough time to be in medicine. There are many institutions fighting back against this trend; one of them is OptumCare, which is an incredible team that is working hard to reverse this trend.
OptumCare is a subsidiary of United Health, the world largest healthcare provider, serving 115 million individuals. Optum is working to transform the U.S. health system into one that serves people with greater value, with a focus on ambulatory, community-based and primary-care-driven solutions.
Today guests are Stephanie Bartz, VP, strategy and chief of staff of OptumCare; Curtis Mock, physician executive, serving as Culture facilitator, a member of Optum diversity and inclusion council, and a member of culture leadership team; Todd Staub, senior VP of physician relations; and Kay Stevens Madler, director of the office for provider advancement, focusing on provider development and engagement.
Key takeaways:
[1:37] Stephanie Bartz
[1:51] Curtis Mock
[2:18] Todd Staub
[2:35] Kay Stevens Madler
[3:06] Why wellness?
[5:19] What bring Curtis Mock into this space?
[6:20] The space of culture.
[9:18] Biggest challenges.
[11:14] Building resiliency.
[13:18] Creating community.
[14:23] What can be done?
[16:01] People were seeking for purpose but were missing a place to go.
[16:49] Meaning of leadership in healthcare today.
[18:06] Co-creation at OptumCare.
[21:39] Medical Culture.
[22:15] Primary care to keep people out of hospitals.
[25:20] Is the healthcare system heading to a “bank bailout” moment?
[27:28] Is there a physician shortage in the U.S.?
[29:10] Rethinking healthcare.
[30:32] Realities on the inside and the outside of the clinic.
[32:20] Primary care is a mirror of society.
[34:12] Optum going beyond the clinic with their Mobile Clinics.
[37:48] Social determinants of health.
[38:42] Using technology to support relationships.
[39:33] Empowering patients.
[41:05] Burnout.
[42:16] The difference in OptumCare practices.
[44:36] Clinicians are building a resilient and positive culture.
[45:10] The crucial value of inclusion.
[46:17] Rapid Fire questions!
Mentioned in this Episode:
Relational Rounds at Primary Care Progress
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