Race Invaders

Today dear listeners I’m calling this episode, “The Coverup”, and in it we talk about the Male Gaze, makeup and how I, Tim, fucked up in this regard.

I apologize.

We also talk about the kerfuffle between Margaret Cho and Tilda Swinton and explore how it could happen that two people could have the same interaction but walk away with completely different reactions.

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Hey there, Race Invaders. We’ve got a special one for you today: an interview with Steven Barnes, Hugo-nominated author and screenwriter, martial artist, and all-around cool dude. Also, Alok has a special thanks for all of you listeners, and then he has a special joke for you in the form of someone actually paying Rachel Dolezal to write a fucking book. This is madness.

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Hey Race Invaders, it’s episode 10 and we’re doing something a little differently – I reached out to you for your burning questions, and we spent the entire 42 minutes answering said questions.

So hey, thanks for asking!

Shout out to Hannah, Esarhaddon, Jamie, Steven, and Rayah. For those of you who asked questions, we’ll be incorporating a question each episode. So, yes – thanks for the new feature!

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Welcome to Race Invaders, where it’s no secret that Alok and Tim are big giant nerds. In this episode we will be discussing Nerd/Geek culture. Why nerds still exist even though nerd culture is way mainstream. And how and why toxic masculinity has poisoned the nerd well.

Tabletop RPGs, Star Wars, Comic Books, and we’re even going to be talking about fountain pens.

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Hey Race Invaders.

Look, we’ll be the first ones to admit that we aren’t perfect. I think we’ve made that pretty clear over the length and breadth of this podcast. We’re going to get things wrong, and when we do, we’ll course correct.

That being said? Sometimes being wrong feels so right. So here we are, Episode 19: Electronic Mail, where we are unabashedly assholes. Was it warranted? Well, we think so – but we invite you to be the judge.

On this episode, Alok and I respond to this email – it’s gonna get salty:
Hey Tim,

I thought your latest episode was really helpful, although I was left wondering what the “male gaze” actually is. I can read Wikipedia, but then the podcast should be more than a list of new and strange keywords to search, right? I especially had that reaction to your critique in the Margaret Cho segment where you said, ~26:00 before you waste someone’s time, try searching “strange concept 1”, “strange concept 2”, (racebending, yellowface, etc.). and I’m like: “how do I magically invent these concepts for searching with no prior exposure?” “How do I know they aren’t bogus Internet red herrings designed to mislead well-meaning people into sounding like idiots?” As if all minority people are speaking your language all the time and we whites are just ignoring them... not exactly. These are in fact somewhat arcane academic concepts specific to the field of social activism and I believe the average POC also has no reliable attachment point for the term “race-bending”.

I really appreciated the “even the best of us can get tripped up sometimes” message. That’s great for smoothing the edgy and somewhat unavoidable “We can do no wrong because we are POC” tone that seeps out of most episodes. As much as you say “we are not perfect”, your disdain for white males and their perspective is the primary topic most of the time, which can make for a challenging listen.

I have an opinion about the source of the “self-defensive crouch” that you see white people assuming (FWIW). I think that there is a more extreme form of white supremacist language that white people are more exposed to than minorities are, because it’s not broadcast publicly, and the proponents only direct their messages to other white people, so minority people get it off-hand or indirectly, but white people hear it spoken directly to them... (mostly by uneducated people that aren’t even part of your conversations probably). Not that you’ve never heard it, but you might view it as being less prevalent than more “casual white supremacy” because you are much less likely to hear it first-hand from people you know personally.

So, the white people that have compassion for minorities take a defensive stance against being associated with this extreme/uneducated group because they see the world of whites as split between those that have some compassion and desire to understand and those that basically don’t give a shit.

“we” (the more liberal bunch) feel we deserve some credit for our compassion and we hate being lumped into a single group of white supremacists, or considered as “all part of the same system”. The defensive crouch comes when the desire to be accepted as part of the solution meets perceived resistance, even in the mild form of “you aren’t nearly there yet”. I think this explanation covers me as a scientist and probably also to the Hollywood types who see themselves as activists and pretty much any professional/worldly white person accustomed to being taken seriously.

I often hear the message between the lines of your comments that “there is no way a white person can be part of the solution, because they are so invested in their position of power” or even “the only way a white person can help is by working against their own interests” (e.g. Tulsa Swinton should turn down any role that doesn’t accurately reflect her own heritage out of principle when any actor knows that’s a recipe for disaster). This is a self-defeating message. People don’t work against their own interests based on an emotional argument from a complete stranger. Much better to find a way to involve white people in whatever reform you want than to imply that their taint will spoil it...

Compassionate white people will continue to seek easy solutions, or “balm for their guilt”, that is totally true. But they are also willing to accept a bigger challenge if they aren’t pushed out altogether first. Baby steps.

It’s great that you mentioned that some people “just don’t know better” and some people are putting on an act to hide their own denial. This is true. It’s also possible that people know better in one dimension, but have blinders in a different dimension, or haven’t figured out how to apply what they know to new dimensions of race/cree...