
Presenting: "Stings for Our Enemies. Honey for Our Friends." (from Our Ancestors Were Messy)
02/26/25 • 67 min
For as long as she can remember, Nichole Hill has had a complicated relationship with Black history. Then in 2020, she stumbled on a digital archive of pre Civil Rights era Black newspapers and got obsessed with the scandalous stories she found. Our Ancestors Were Messy is her new podcast that explores Black history through the lens of gossip and drama. In this episode, Nichole tells the story of a Victorian era love triangle that rocked the elites of DC.
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- Listen to Our Ancestors Were Messy
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- Learn more about Nichole and follow her on Instagram @nicholewthanh
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For as long as she can remember, Nichole Hill has had a complicated relationship with Black history. Then in 2020, she stumbled on a digital archive of pre Civil Rights era Black newspapers and got obsessed with the scandalous stories she found. Our Ancestors Were Messy is her new podcast that explores Black history through the lens of gossip and drama. In this episode, Nichole tells the story of a Victorian era love triangle that rocked the elites of DC.
From the episode:
- Listen to Our Ancestors Were Messy
- Support the show by becoming a member
- Learn more about Nichole and follow her on Instagram @nicholewthanh
Proxy is an independent podcast and we rely on listeners. To support emotional investigative journalismTM️ and help the show keep going, consider joining our Patreon. You’ll get ad-free episodes and exclusive bonus interviews.
Sign up for our free newsletter.
Follow us on Instagram: @proxypodcast @yoweishaw
Get in touch at [email protected]
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Presenting: Alternate Realities (from NPR's Embedded)
Conspiracy theories have been gaining traction all the way to the highest seats of power. So, are there emotional dynamics at play that we could understand to be able to do something about it?
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From NPR’s Embedded podcast, this is episode 2 of the Alternate Realities series: Down the Rabbit Hole.
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