
S2Ep10: Respect, Reflection, And Culturally Responsive Leadership with Ryan Persaud
01/17/24 • 31 min
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Ryan Persaud, school leader at VERSO International School, a “school of the future” in Thailand.
They discuss overcoming barriers and leading with courage, authenticity, and purpose; the importance of returning to the vision; and the power of mentorship.
What is culturally responsive leadership and how can leadership teams in international schools foster it? What role does our bias and our privilege play in how we lead and influence others?
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To get in touch with Ryan, you can find him online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-persaud/
VERSO International School: https://www.verso.ac.th/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Ryan Persaud, school leader at VERSO International School, a “school of the future” in Thailand.
They discuss overcoming barriers and leading with courage, authenticity, and purpose; the importance of returning to the vision; and the power of mentorship.
What is culturally responsive leadership and how can leadership teams in international schools foster it? What role does our bias and our privilege play in how we lead and influence others?
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To get in touch with Ryan, you can find him online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-persaud/
VERSO International School: https://www.verso.ac.th/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
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S2Ep9: How To Truly Listen: Nurturing A 'Thinking Environment' with Candice Smith
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Gill Kelly and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Candice Smith, meeting & workshop facilitator, coach, and founder of The Thinking Field, through which she helps leaders to “create cultures of collaboration, inclusion, belonging and innovation.”
They discuss the responsibility we have to acknowledging the influence of previous generations, the importance of intentionality in setting up organisations that help our bodies and minds to thrive, and the tension between building profit and building a culture of thinking.
What is a ‘thinking environment’ and how can we actively create one? What is the role of collaboration, deep listening, and connection in this mission? How much damage can interrupting someone really do?
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To get in touch with Candice, you can find her online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/candice-smith-a76944a/
The Thinking Field: https://www.thethinkingfield.com/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
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S2Ep11: Nurturing The Cultural Richness Of International Schools with Shane Leaning
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Shane Leaning, international school leadership and organisational development coach, and creator and host of the Global Ed Leaders podcast for leaders shaping education on a global scale.
They discuss cultural differences in communication, decision making, authority and criticism; lessons from a valuable and little-known resource; and the power of a coaching-style approach to leadership.
How can we foster organisational health in international schools where cultural differences might result in vastly different approaches to crucial elements such as decision making or authority? What measures can we implement to overcome barriers presented by these differences? And how powerful can adaptability and curiosity really be?
Resource mentioned in episode:
Autobiography of Intercultural Encounters: https://www.coe.int/en/web/autobiography-intercultural-encounters
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To get in touch with Shane, you can find him online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leaningshane/?originalSubdomain=cn
Website: https://www.shaneleaning.com/
Global Ed Leaders Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/company/globaledleaders/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
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