Principled
By Matt Hall and Naomi Ward
Welcome to Season Three of Principled, from MSB.
This season offers international school leaders a provocation to think differently about the future of education and their role in the creation of this future. It is an opportunity to continue thinking seriously and deeply about the legacy that school leaders leave behind through concerted action in the present.
To frame this provocation, we will be bringing together the latest research and thinking about futures-focused leadership, alongside insights from interviews with experts from across the international school sector and beyond.
Each episode we will explore a different domain, and in the following episode we will put the thinking through its paces with a panel of school leaders - some highly experienced, some new in role and some emerging.
Episodes will go live every other Monday.
You can find out more about Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools and MSB at www.makingstuffbetter.com
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Pedagogy & Assessment, with Angeline Aow
Principled
01/13/25 • 34 min
What are the structures that restrict change in education? How do we ensure that our students leave our schools with qualifications that reflect the breadth of their knowledge and skill?
Our guest in this episode, Angeline Aow, has a wealth of experience in rethinking pedagogy and curriculum. She challenges our assumptions about what assessment can do and how teachers can use their own critical thinking skills to deliver meaningful educational experiences.
Angeline Aow is an international educator, learning and development specialist, workshop leader, school evaluator and pedagogical leader. In these roles, she has worked in the Asia-Pacific, European, Middle-East and African regions. Angeline trained and taught as a primary school teacher in Sydney, Australia. She then began her international school career at Nanjing International School, China and is currently working part-time at Berlin International School, Germany, in the role of PYP Coordinator (Upper Elementary). She also serves as a part-time International Advisor (focused on Inclusion via Diversity, Equity and Anti-racism - I-DEA) with the Council of International Schools. Her experiences as a homeroom teacher, music specialist, accreditation coordinator, curriculum coordinator and professional learning and development coordinator has given her unique insights in multiple areas.
A well-respected International Baccalaureate Primary Years Programme (IB PYP) educator, Angeline has been working with the programme since 2002 and has been a qualified member of the International Baccalaureate Educator Network (IBEN) since 2007. With over a decade of experience as a workshop leader she has facilitated multiple workshops on a variety of topics and categories. Her areas of expertise include written curriculum development, concept-based curriculum, promoting international mindedness, multilingual teaching and learning and more.
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Find out more about MSB and download our paper, Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools, at www.makingstuffbetter.com
You can find us on Linked in at -
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
09/27/23 • 35 min
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by renowned poet and theologian, Pádraig Ó Tuama.
They're kicking off their exploration of systemic and organisational health from the perspective of a poet, discussing poetry as an unpredictable language event; the important secondary purpose of all organisations that should not be overlooked; and the role of courage and innovation in teaching .
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To get in touch with Pádraig , you can find him online here:
LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/p%C3%A1draig-%C3%B3-tuama-4a7b36225
Website : https://www.padraigotuama.com/
Podcast : https://onbeing.org/series/poetry-unbound/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
09/27/23 • 11 min
Principled is back!
Welcome to Season 2 of the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better introduce their mission statement for an exciting second season.
This time, we're exploring organisational health. What does it mean to create healthy systems? And how can we overcome the challenges currently faced by leaders in education?
With the help of some fantastic guests, Matt and Naomi invite you on a journey to explore how we can promote safe spaces full of opportunity.
So join us as we find out what the people at the forefront of education, systems thinking, ecology, consultancy and many more industries are doing to protect these spaces for the generations to come.
Stay tuned for more episodes of Principled.
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
11/18/24 • 35 min
Many international schools are working hard on confronting issues of inequality, justice and global politics. Involving the wider school community can be challenging without a guide or a framework to follow. Our guest in this episode, Homa Tavanger, poses some thoughtful questions to start the conversation.
In this wide-ranging discussion, we talk about student activism in the wake of the murder of George Floyd, thinking about the future in a liminal age, and confronting colonial heritage.
Homa Tavangar is the co-founder of the Big Questions Institute and the Oneness Lab.
She brings 30+ years’ experience helping diverse organizations and individuals to build cultural, racial and global competence, strategic governance, and visionary, generative leadership in diverse schools and organizations. She coaches leaders on accountability for equity, leading through crisis, and advises on strategic design and planning across five continents. She has co-authored seven books for educators, and is the author of best-selling Growing Up Global: Raising Children to Be At Home in the World (published by Random House) and Global Kids (Barefoot Books). Her most recent publication is 12 Big Questions Schools Must Answer to Create Irresistible Futures with Will Richardson (forthcoming, 2025).
A graduate of UCLA and Princeton, Homa was born in Iran, has lived on four continents, speaks four languages, and has heritage in four world religions. She serves on several Boards, including ISS (International Schools Services) and is a judge for the Templeton Prize, considered the “world’s most interesting prize” with a purse calibrated to exceed the Nobel Prize. She is married and the mother of three adult daughters, and resides in Villanova, Pennsylvania.
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Find out more about MSB and download our paper, Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools, at www.makingstuffbetter.com
Contact the team about our Futures-Focused Pledge at https://zcal.co/t/makingstuffbetter/talktotheteam
You can find us on Linked in at
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
Ecological Domain Round Table
Principled
12/30/24 • 34 min
Saving the planet can seem a daunting and overwhelming task, so how do we communicate the scale of the problem with hope and excitement in our schools? In this episode, we’re joined by three educators to discuss the domain of ecology and nature with a futures focus.
Kenny Peavey, originally from Georgia, USA, has over 23 years of experience teaching across Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, and Indonesia. Currently, he teaches Science, Math, and Regeneration in a dynamic outdoor setting at Green School Bali Middle School.
He has led thousands of students on experiential expeditions throughout Southeast Asia focused on cultural immersion, ecology, adventure, and service learning. Passionate about sustainability, Kenny has undertaken initiatives like cycling from Thailand to Bali on a bamboo bike to promote environmental awareness and kayaking around Phuket to highlight marine conservation.
He is also the author of The Box People - Out of the BOX!, a children’s book that encourages sustainable communities and connection with nature. Recognized for his commitment to environmental education and conservation, Kenny has received Volunteer of the Year awards from both Georgia Adopt-A-Stream and the Malaysian Nature Society.
Rose Scavotto is MYP & DP Biology & ESS Teacher and EcoSchools Coordinator at Benjamin Franklin International School. As a sustainability-focused educator, whose strengths include interdisciplinary work and hands-on projects, her goal is to create global citizens with a passion for bettering the world.
Tatiana Ramirez is the Founder of Pebble Effect (www.pebble-effect.net). Tatiana is on a mission to inspire and engage change makers to create a more sustainable and just world for the generations to come. She leverages 15 years of experience in sustainability education to amplify the positive impact of international schools on social and environmental justice.
Tatiana helps schools align their strategy and actions with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) and aims to foster cross-sector collaboration to drive lasting and systemic change.
In previous projects, Tatiana has advised international schools in Spain and Germany through their systemic transformation and the Eco School certification process. She has also initiated and facilitated partnerships with the Jane Goodall Institute, UNICEF and Foundation Airbus.
Our guests shared the following resources -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o9WBd-Sr4rBypLCMbeiRsjN5ed6qKxTl/view
https://www.gerhardcenter.org/resources-and-articles/what-is-regenerative-education
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Find out more about MSB and download our paper, Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools, at www.makingstuffbetter.com
Contact the team about our Futures-Focused Pledge at https://zcal.co/t/makingstuffbetter/talktotheteam
You can find us on Linked in at
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
01/17/24 • 31 min
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Ryan Persaud, school leader at VERSO International School, a “school of the future” in Thailand.
They discuss overcoming barriers and leading with courage, authenticity, and purpose; the importance of returning to the vision; and the power of mentorship.
What is culturally responsive leadership and how can leadership teams in international schools foster it? What role does our bias and our privilege play in how we lead and influence others?
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To get in touch with Ryan, you can find him online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-persaud/
VERSO International School: https://www.verso.ac.th/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
10/20/24 • 35 min
For many, contemplation of the technological domain, the massive swift growth of generative AI, for example, comes with fear and trepidation. So we’re delighted to be joined today by Tricia Friedman, who brings calm, inspiration and fun to the challenge of imagining future technologies.
In this conversation we talk about not just generative AI, but also cross species communication, mobile phone bans in schools, and how to involve everyone in the conversation about technological change.
Tricia Friedman (she/her) is a long-time educator who has worked in the US, China, Thailand, Morocco, Ukraine, Indonesia, Switzerland, Singapore and now currently lives in Canada. She’s founder of Allyed.org and Director of Learning and Strategy with Shifting Schools. Tricia is an avid podcaster, you can catch her on Be a Better Ally, Unhinged Collaboration, Shifting Schools, and if you listen closely you might occasionally hear her dog weigh in too.
Connect with her on LinkedIn where you’ll catch her talking about the intersection of #AILiteracy #InformationLiteracy #MediaLiteracy and how #DEIJ is integral to those literacies and leadership.https://www.linkedin.com/in/tricia-friedman-allyed
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Find out more about MSB and download our paper, Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools, at www.makingstuffbetter.com
You can find us on Linked in at
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
02/02/23 • 26 min
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better talk to Joe Heap, the Festival Director of the Towersey Festival.
They discuss various topics based around the theme of belonging, including: why there is so much to learn about a sense of belonging from a long-running festival; the role that ancestry and history can potentially play in helping to foster a sense of identity within schools; and how people can feel the spirit of belonging in vastly different ways.
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To get in touch with Joe, you can find him online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-heap-3650092/
Towersey Festival: https://www.towerseyfestival.com/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
02/14/24 • 34 min
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Nicholas Janni, renowned speaker, coach, and co-founder / programme director at Matrix Development.
Nicholas is also the author of Business Book of the Year 2023 Leader as Healer, a new paradigm for 21st Century leadership - an unflinching call for leaders to leave the old paradigm and move towards a new mode of "leader as healers".
They discuss the role of reverence, intuition, and connection; the two paths to development’ and the power of a simple question.
Does our leadership style originate from childhood? And with this understanding, how can we truly ‘let go’ of frozen trauma and unlock connected, intentional leadership? What impact will this have on organisational health and the way generations lead those behind them?
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To get in touch with Nicholas, you can find him online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-janni-976b3817/
Website: https://www.nicholasjanni.com/
The Matrix Development: https://www.thematrixdevelopment.com/
Leaders as Healers book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Leader-Healer-paradigm-21st-century-leadership/dp/1911687069
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
Technology Round Table Discussion
Principled
11/04/24 • 35 min
How are the opportunities and challenges that come with the future of technology being felt in schools? This episode, we’re joined by three educators, Rachael Thrash, Yasmine Aslam-Hashmi and Rory Douglas, to discuss futures focussed technology in education.
Rachael Thrash is the CEO and Co-Founder of Belong Hub, student leadership kits and services that guide adults and students to collaboratively create a belonging-centered school culture. Rachael is a school leader and master teacher with 20+ years experience in the field of education. With a Masters from Brown University, she has taught and led initiatives in independent US schools, public community colleges, and international IB schools, most recently the International School of Helsinki in Finland.
Yasmine Aslam-Hashmi is an international school educator with over 18 years of experience. She has taught in Canada, South Korea, Vietnam and Switzerland where she currently resides. Having taken on multiple roles within schools as a teacher, department head, curriculum developer, instructional coach, and an academic and action researcher – Yasmine is an inclusive and equitable schools' specialist, with additional specialist in learning support and teaching English to multilingual learners. She has taught middle school Mathematics, Science, Learning Support, English as an Additional Language, and Grade 11 and 12 Theory of Knowledge. She is currently a co-facilitator for the ECIS DEIJ Leadership Development Cohort, and is teaching at an international school in Zurich, Switzerland.
Rory Douglas currently serves as the Innovation and Learning Coach at Kennedy School in Hong Kong. He has been working with the ESF schools group in Hong Kong for the past 6 years, 3 at Beacon Hill School and 3 at Kennedy, as a Year 5 & 6 teacher. Before that he worked as Head of Early Years in East London, before making the move to Hong Kong. He is an ESF Centre for Research Fellow and also spends time supporting classes across the school in STEM subjects.
Our guests shared the following resources -
"We are in the midst of a historical transformation. Current times are not just part of normal history." Sohail Inayatullah, ed., The Views of Futurists. Vol 4, The Knowledge Base of Futures Studies. Brisbane, Foresight International, 2001.
Jonathan Haidt: The Anxious Generation
The Right Question Institute https://rightquestion.org/
10 to 25: A Groundbreaking Approach to Leading the Next Generation—And Making Your Own Life Easier by David Yeager
Technology & Ethos - Vol. 2 Book of Life by Imamu Amiri Baraka (LeRoi Jones)
The TIM - Technology Integration Matrix - https://fcit.usf.edu/matrix/
Where Good Ideas Come From: The Natural History of Innovation by Steven Johnson
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Find out more about MSB and download our paper, Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools, at www.makingstuffbetter.com
You can find us on Linked in at
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
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