
Dr. Scott J. Allen & Dr. Tony Middlebrooks - Stay Curious
11/23/22 • 48 min
Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Robert M. Ginn Institute Professor for Leadership & Social Responsibility at John Carroll University. Allen is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, the future of work, and executive communication. He's an award-winning professor passionate about working with people of all ages.
Scott has published more than 50 book chapters and peer-reviewed journal articles. He is the co-author of The Little Book of Leadership Development: 50 Ways to Bring Out the Leader in Every Employee, Emotionally Intelligent Leadership: A Guide for College Students, and the textbook Discovering Leadership: Designing Your Success (2019). Scott’s most recent publication is Captovation: Online Presentations by Design.
In addition to writing and teaching, Scott consults, facilitates workshops, and leads retreats across industries. Recent engagements include Key Bank, EY, Siegfried Group, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Sherwin Williams, Progressive, NASA-Glenn, FedEx Custom Critical, Toyota, Crestron, Endeavor Energy Resources, Thompson Hine LLP, Southern Methodist University, Cleveland Clinic, and Leadership Cleveland.
Scott co-founded Captovation, a services firm dedicated to “Presentation Coaching for the Digital Age.” He is also the co-founder and Board Chair of the Collegiate Leadership Competition. He has served on the board of the International Leadership Association, Association of Leadership Educators, and Management and Organizational Behavior Teaching Society. Allen was named an ILA Fellow by the International Leadership Association in 2021.
He resides in Chagrin Falls, Ohio, with his wife, Jessica, and three children - Will, Kate & Emily.
Articles
About The International Leadership Association (ILA)
- The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.
My Approach to Hosting
- The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.
About Dr. Tony Middlebrooks (Guest Host)
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Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Robert M. Ginn Institute Professor for Leadership & Social Responsibility at John Carroll University. Allen is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, the future of work, and executive communication. He's an award-winning professor passionate about working with people of all ages.
Scott has published more than 50 book chapters and peer-reviewed journal articles. He is the co-author of The Little Book of Leadership Development: 50 Ways to Bring Out the Leader in Every Employee, Emotionally Intelligent Leadership: A Guide for College Students, and the textbook Discovering Leadership: Designing Your Success (2019). Scott’s most recent publication is Captovation: Online Presentations by Design.
In addition to writing and teaching, Scott consults, facilitates workshops, and leads retreats across industries. Recent engagements include Key Bank, EY, Siegfried Group, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Sherwin Williams, Progressive, NASA-Glenn, FedEx Custom Critical, Toyota, Crestron, Endeavor Energy Resources, Thompson Hine LLP, Southern Methodist University, Cleveland Clinic, and Leadership Cleveland.
Scott co-founded Captovation, a services firm dedicated to “Presentation Coaching for the Digital Age.” He is also the co-founder and Board Chair of the Collegiate Leadership Competition. He has served on the board of the International Leadership Association, Association of Leadership Educators, and Management and Organizational Behavior Teaching Society. Allen was named an ILA Fellow by the International Leadership Association in 2021.
He resides in Chagrin Falls, Ohio, with his wife, Jessica, and three children - Will, Kate & Emily.
Articles
About The International Leadership Association (ILA)
- The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.
My Approach to Hosting
- The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.
About Dr. Tony Middlebrooks (Guest Host)
♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!
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➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.
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🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.
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Quotes About Storytelling
- "The story is the strategy." - Ben Horowitz
- "The storyteller is the most important person in the world." - Steve Jobs
About The International Leadership Association (ILA)
- The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.
My Approach to Hosting
- The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.
Connect with Scott Allen
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Dr. Hannes Leroy - Walking Our Evidence-Based Talk
Dr. Hannes Leroy is interested in authentic leadership and how to develop it. That interest includes not only a passionate and critical view of the concept of authenticity but his past work also includes a better understanding of its unique outcomes (e.g., safety, error hiding and work engagement), antecedents (e.g., mindfulness training), and similarities and differences from related concepts (i.e., leader behavioral integrity, leader communication transparency). On the development side he is passionate about authenticity both in terms of developing leaders to use their unique or authentic self as a source of their leadership strength as well as the idea of real (i.e., actually moving the needle) leadership development.
Dr. Hannes Leroy's Scholarship
A Quote
- "Academics have lamented that practitioners do not always adopt scientific evidence in practice, yet while academics preach evidence-based management (EBM), they do not always practice it." - Leroy et al.
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
- Article: Walking Our Evidence-Based Talk: The Case of Leadership Development in Business Schools by Leroy et al.
- Article: Advancing Leadership Education and Development: Integrating Adult Learning Theory by Allen, Rosch, and Riggio
- Hannes' Ted Talk: I was never trained for this!
- Conference: New Directions in Leadership Research Conference
- Group: The League of Leadership
- Award: Evidence-Based Leadership Development Program Award
About The International Leadership Association (ILA)
- The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.
My Approach to Hosting
- The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.
Connect with Scott Allen
♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!
⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.
➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.
📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.
🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.
Practical Wisdom for Leaders with Scott J. Allen, Ph.D. - Dr. Scott J. Allen & Dr. Tony Middlebrooks - Stay Curious
Transcript
Note: Voice-to-text transcriptions are about 90% accurate, and conversations-to-text do not always translate perfectly. I include it to provide you with the spirit of the conversation.
Scott Allen 0:00
Okay, everybody, welcome to the Phronesis podcast. This is episode 150. And probably about like episode 87 Tony Middlebrooks looked at me and said, has anyone interviewed you yet? And I kind of filed that back and repress the thought. And, you know, I saw him a f
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