Dr. Chuck Palus, John McGuire, & Dr. Jonathan Reams - The Both/And Reality
01/11/23 • 57 min
Charles J. (Chuck) Palus, Ph.D., is an Honorary Senior Fellow at the Center for Creative Leadership (retired 2020). He studies, teaches, and develops leadership as a relational process within the context of the vertical transformation of leadership cultures. He is co-founder of CCL Labs, a community-based innovation laboratory with a line of products including Visual ExplorerTM, Leadership EssentialsTM, TransformationsTM, and the Early Leadership ToolkitTM. He is co-author of the award-winning book The Leader’s Edge; and the papers: Making Common Sense: Leadership as Meaning-Making in a Community of Practice, and Evolving Leaders. His work appears in Leadership Quarterly, Harvard Business Review, the Harvard Business School Handbook for Teaching Leadership, the CCL Handbook of Leadership Development, the Handbook of Action Research, and the Change Handbook.
John McGuire, Principal of the McGuire Consultant Group, an Honorary Senior Fellow at the Center for Creative Leadership, co-founder and practice leader of CCL’s Organizational Leadership Transformation practice, and an Action Inquiry Associate charter member. He specializes in Vertical Leadership Culture as the core mechanism in his change leadership methodology for transforming executives, their teams, and organizations. As an action-research practitioner, speaker, and author, John’s innovation essentially reforms traditional change methods to be consciously driven toward senior leadership’s culture, developing interdependent beliefs and practices. Since 2006 his publications comprise the book Transforming Your Leadership Culture, and articles in Leadership Quarterly, Forbes, and the Washington Post. John has assisted organizations across market sectors in transforming toward Interdependent Leadership Cultures and previously practiced vertical transformation through senior business management positions across industries. He holds master’s degrees from Harvard and Brandeis Universities.
A Quote From This Episode
- "It’s this underlying yin-yang idea of balance of things that seem very different, but they’re, in fact, a unity. And that’s what we want to emphasize."
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
- Making common sense: Leadership as meaning making in a community of practice
- Vertical Transformation of Leadership Culture
- Bernoulli’s Fallacy: Statistical Illogic and the Crisis of Modern Science
by Clayton - How Invention Begins by Lienhard
More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams
- Jonathan's Website
- Book:
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Charles J. (Chuck) Palus, Ph.D., is an Honorary Senior Fellow at the Center for Creative Leadership (retired 2020). He studies, teaches, and develops leadership as a relational process within the context of the vertical transformation of leadership cultures. He is co-founder of CCL Labs, a community-based innovation laboratory with a line of products including Visual ExplorerTM, Leadership EssentialsTM, TransformationsTM, and the Early Leadership ToolkitTM. He is co-author of the award-winning book The Leader’s Edge; and the papers: Making Common Sense: Leadership as Meaning-Making in a Community of Practice, and Evolving Leaders. His work appears in Leadership Quarterly, Harvard Business Review, the Harvard Business School Handbook for Teaching Leadership, the CCL Handbook of Leadership Development, the Handbook of Action Research, and the Change Handbook.
John McGuire, Principal of the McGuire Consultant Group, an Honorary Senior Fellow at the Center for Creative Leadership, co-founder and practice leader of CCL’s Organizational Leadership Transformation practice, and an Action Inquiry Associate charter member. He specializes in Vertical Leadership Culture as the core mechanism in his change leadership methodology for transforming executives, their teams, and organizations. As an action-research practitioner, speaker, and author, John’s innovation essentially reforms traditional change methods to be consciously driven toward senior leadership’s culture, developing interdependent beliefs and practices. Since 2006 his publications comprise the book Transforming Your Leadership Culture, and articles in Leadership Quarterly, Forbes, and the Washington Post. John has assisted organizations across market sectors in transforming toward Interdependent Leadership Cultures and previously practiced vertical transformation through senior business management positions across industries. He holds master’s degrees from Harvard and Brandeis Universities.
A Quote From This Episode
- "It’s this underlying yin-yang idea of balance of things that seem very different, but they’re, in fact, a unity. And that’s what we want to emphasize."
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
- Making common sense: Leadership as meaning making in a community of practice
- Vertical Transformation of Leadership Culture
- Bernoulli’s Fallacy: Statistical Illogic and the Crisis of Modern Science
by Clayton - How Invention Begins by Lienhard
More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams
- Jonathan's Website
- Book:
♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!
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Dr. Harriette Rasmussen, Dr. Mohammed Raei, & Dr. Jonathan Reams - The Diverse Drivers of Trust
Dr. Harriette Rasmussen is an assistant clinical professor at Drexel University's School of Education, where she teaches doctoral courses in leadership, writing, and qualitative research and supervises doctoral research. Through her firm HTR Consulting, she has consulted internationally about leadership, learning networks, organizational effectiveness, and community engagement. Her clients have included The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Washington State Board of Education, the American Institutes for Research, and school districts ranging from 800 to 50,000. She was a member of the consultant cohort piloting integration of Harvard’s Graduate School of Education, Business School, and the Kennedy School for educational leaders and served as a faculty member for the Coach Learning Program of Harvard’s Change Leadership Group. She has been widely published in trade journals and contributed to Change Leadership: A Practical Guide to Transforming Our Schools.
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A Quote From This Episode
- "When you lead, you are going to disappoint people. Change is hard. Loss is challenging...so you can’t ask people to give something up unless they trust that they will be okay."
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
- APA Dictionary of Psychology: Holding Environment
- Book: Trust in Schools: A Core Resource for Improvement by Bryk & Schneider
- Book: The Thin Book of Trust by Chris Feltman
- Book: Unleash Your Complexity Genius by Berger & Coughlin
- Book: Evolving Self by Kegan
- Book: The H-factor by Sowcik
More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams
- Jonathan's Website
- Book:
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Fr. David McCallum, Ed.D. & Dr. Jonathan Reams - We Are Varied, Dimensionally Complex Creatures
David McCallum, S.J., Ed.D is a Jesuit priest and leadership educator. He serves as the founding Executive Director of the Program for Discerning Leadership, a special project of the General Curia of the Society of Jesus, Georgetown, and the Gregorian University. The Program provides leadership formation for senior Vatican officials and major superiors of religious orders in Rome, Italy, and internationally.
He is a facilitator for mission-driven, personal and organizational development programs, provides developmentally informed executive coaching, and delivers leadership development programs and spiritual retreats internationally. He co-founded the Contemplative Leaders in Action program (CLA), an initiative of the Office for Ignatian Spirituality (USA East Coast Province), as well as the Global Jesuit Case Series, the Mission Integration Institute at the University of San Diego, and the Ignatian Leadership Program for the Conference of European Provincials of the Society of Jesus.
Currently, Fr. McCallum lives in Rome and serves as a member of the Secretariat for the Synod of Bishops Commission on Methodology, supporting the Synodal process initiative by Pope Francis, and as adjunct faculty in the Institute for Anthropology, Interdisciplinary Studies of Human Dignity and Care (IADC) at the Pontifical Gregorian University.
A Quote From This Episode
- "We are all on that journey of trying to show up as our better selves. But the reality is that our context and the conditions in which we’re situated are constantly squeezing our developmental capacity."
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
- Book: Numbskull in the Theatre of Inquiry: Transforming Self, Friends, Organizations, and Social Science by Torbert
- Book: Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You by Livesay
- Book: Generative Knowing: Principles, Methods, and Dispositions of an Emerging Adult Learning Theory by Nicolaides
- 360 Tool: The Leadership Circle
More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams
- Jonathan's Website
- Book: Maturing Leadership: How Adult Development Impacts Leadership
- Article: A Brief Overview of Developmental Theory
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Practical Wisdom for Leaders with Scott J. Allen, Ph.D. - Dr. Chuck Palus, John McGuire, & Dr. Jonathan Reams - The Both/And Reality
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Hey everybody, welcome to the phronesis podcast. Thank you so much for being with us today. Today our guests we're continuing the series on adult development and leadership at that intersection. As always, I have my co-host, Jonathan Reams, with me. He had ed
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