
Episode 4 - How We Get There From Here: Step 1
09/28/22 • 71 min
Episode 4 - How We Get There From Here: Step 1
Join us as we “drive” around the topic of Maine’s road. In the course of three interviews, Episode 4 travels from the Town of Jackman, through Augusta to chat with MDOT, all the way south to Town of Gray.
In Jackman we explore the local reality of maintaining a network of roads. The conversation covers state-local partnerships, the budget crunch for public works departments, and a local hero who came to the rescue to save drivers from a 163-mile detour.
In Augusta we meet with MDOT to hear about the Community Services Division, road inventories and classifications, local road assistance program (LRAP), local road plans and the fallacy of “worst first.”
Finally, we stop in Gray to dissect the pesky issue of private roads its intersection with the environmental responsibilities of local governments. This episode will be part of ongoing dives into road related issues so...stay tuned!
Episode Breakdown
03:50 – Town of Jackman, Public Works Director Doug Worster and Town Manager Cheryl Nadeau
21:00 – Peter Coughlan, Director of MDOT Community Services Division and Planning Board member in the Town of Randolph
47:25 – Nate Rudy, Town Manager of Gray
1:07:45 – Municipal Good News: “Celebrate” MMA’s upcoming convention
Corrections and Clarifications
49:55 - The budget for plowing private roads in Gray was originally estimated at $300K per year, however that cost is actually closer to $150K per year.
Episode 4 - How We Get There From Here: Step 1
Join us as we “drive” around the topic of Maine’s road. In the course of three interviews, Episode 4 travels from the Town of Jackman, through Augusta to chat with MDOT, all the way south to Town of Gray.
In Jackman we explore the local reality of maintaining a network of roads. The conversation covers state-local partnerships, the budget crunch for public works departments, and a local hero who came to the rescue to save drivers from a 163-mile detour.
In Augusta we meet with MDOT to hear about the Community Services Division, road inventories and classifications, local road assistance program (LRAP), local road plans and the fallacy of “worst first.”
Finally, we stop in Gray to dissect the pesky issue of private roads its intersection with the environmental responsibilities of local governments. This episode will be part of ongoing dives into road related issues so...stay tuned!
Episode Breakdown
03:50 – Town of Jackman, Public Works Director Doug Worster and Town Manager Cheryl Nadeau
21:00 – Peter Coughlan, Director of MDOT Community Services Division and Planning Board member in the Town of Randolph
47:25 – Nate Rudy, Town Manager of Gray
1:07:45 – Municipal Good News: “Celebrate” MMA’s upcoming convention
Corrections and Clarifications
49:55 - The budget for plowing private roads in Gray was originally estimated at $300K per year, however that cost is actually closer to $150K per year.
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Episode 3 – The Invisible Blue Line
Episode 3 – The Invisible Blue Line
Episode 3 of Potholes & Politics examines a vital state and local partnership, “the invisible blue line”, in which state law enforcement support the operations of local police departments. Examining the cooperation between state law enforcement and local officials to safely host “Maine Day” in Orono highlights when and how this partnership works and why it is needed and available not only in times of crisis. The episode features officials from the Town of Orono, Orono Police Department and Maine State Police. Stick around at the end for the municipal good news story, fall agricultural fairs, and a convention announcement.
Episode Breakdown
00.05 – Welcome from Nick Kimball, MMA Underwriting Technician
01.10 – Introduction to the Invisible Blue Line
08.15 – Interview with:
Sophie Wilson, Town Manager of Orono
Dan Merrill, Chief of Orono Police Department
Scott Gosselin, Major, Support Services, Maine State Police
Darren Foster, Sargent of Maine State Police
Bill Ross, Major, Operations Division, Maine State Police
John Cote, Colonel of Maine State Police
44.10 – Host Wrap up to Invisible Blue Line
47.15 – MMA Convention Announcement
48:40 – Municipal Good News: Agricultural Fairs
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Bonus Episode: From the Convention Floor
Join us on the exhibit floor at MMA’s annual convention, where your podcasts hosts capture the sounds and energy from members, vendors, and partners in attendance.
Check out this bonus episode to find out who sat down at Potholes & Politics’ recording booth and what was on their mind during this celebratory two-day event.
Interview Timestamps:
7.05 Debbie Laurie – Bangor City Manager
11.10 Jim Bennett – MMA President and Biddeford City Manager
18.20 Elaine Aloes – Incoming MMA President and First Selectperson in Solon
20.57 Diane Hines – Incoming MMA Vice President and Town Manager of Reed Plantation and Ludlow
26.21 Durlin Lunt – Mount Desert Town Manager and 2022 Manager of the Year by the Maine Town, City and County Management Association
32.32 Kurt Schaub – Turner Town Manager
38.57 John Simko – Androscoggin Bank
43.15 Kay Rand – TFIC
48.30 James Neal – Efficiency Maine
51.42 Christine Landes – Chelsea Town Manager
54.18 Judy Mathiau – Winslow Assessor
58.05 Yanina Nickless – Assistant to the Kennebunkport Town Manager
1:03.38 Gillian Gaddis – Cutler Deputy Clerk
1:08.10 Shenna Bellows – Secretary of State
1:12.51 Bruce Van Note – Commissioner of MDOT
1:18.55 Marty Grohman – Biddeford City Councilor
1:23.04 Bryan Roach – Volunteer Maine
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