Episode 002 | Politely Up Yours - Hacker Vitriol

04/20/16 • 39 min

Dave Rael and Joe Macaluso use reports that the hacker group, Anonymous, targeted Donald Trump as a starting point to discuss vitriol, discourse, power, and emotion

Chapters:

0:12 - Introduction of our topic - the level of discourse and attacks by Anonymous on Donald Trump
1:07 - Reactions to reports of Anonymous attacking Donald Trump - would such actions be a fight for freedom or an immoral act?
3:40 - Thoughts on the nature of Donald Trump
4:21 - Nuance regarding the Trump rhetoric and statements regarding Islam and Muslims
9:05 - Trump supporters and the ignorance of American voters - Trump's statements and the presence or absence of content (any different from any politician?)
11:25 - Is there a difference between Donald Trump's preying on fear and the underlying draw of other politicians? Is there a difference between the parties?
15:31 - Bernie Sanders - is he different?
16:33 - The thoughts of Scott Adams on Donald Trump as the master persuader and the primacy of emotion in decisions
20:11 - "Vitriol rules" - the absence of civil discourse
23:38 - Are personal attacks justified?
25:25 - Breaking the law, the nature of law, and the morality of attacks
27:34 - Batman, justice and penal systems, and vengeance vs. defense
29:48 - The Electoral College, protection from self, and the utility/futility of trying to contribute to the determination of representatives

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Dave Rael and Joe Macaluso use reports that the hacker group, Anonymous, targeted Donald Trump as a starting point to discuss vitriol, discourse, power, and emotion

Chapters:

0:12 - Introduction of our topic - the level of discourse and attacks by Anonymous on Donald Trump
1:07 - Reactions to reports of Anonymous attacking Donald Trump - would such actions be a fight for freedom or an immoral act?
3:40 - Thoughts on the nature of Donald Trump
4:21 - Nuance regarding the Trump rhetoric and statements regarding Islam and Muslims
9:05 - Trump supporters and the ignorance of American voters - Trump's statements and the presence or absence of content (any different from any politician?)
11:25 - Is there a difference between Donald Trump's preying on fear and the underlying draw of other politicians? Is there a difference between the parties?
15:31 - Bernie Sanders - is he different?
16:33 - The thoughts of Scott Adams on Donald Trump as the master persuader and the primacy of emotion in decisions
20:11 - "Vitriol rules" - the absence of civil discourse
23:38 - Are personal attacks justified?
25:25 - Breaking the law, the nature of law, and the morality of attacks
27:34 - Batman, justice and penal systems, and vengeance vs. defense
29:48 - The Electoral College, protection from self, and the utility/futility of trying to contribute to the determination of representatives

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Episode 001 | Politely Up Yours - Democracy Is a Disaster

Dave Rael and Joe Macaluso dive into the nature of democracy, government, power, and corruption

Chapters:

0:01 - Welcome and Hello
0:59 - Inflammatory statement and opening to the discussion: Democracy is a disaster
3:52 - Incentives, alignment, intent, and reality
6:32 - Distinguishing levels of government
8:23 - Legalization of marijuana and the criminality of possession
9:42 - Citizens United, Bernie Sanders, and the power to overturn
10:54 - The nature of democracy
11:52 - “A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.” - Gary Strand
12:24 - The purpose and nature of government
16:02 - Rational and legitimate fears
19:17 - The concentration of force as response to the fear of force
21:55 - Intent of the US Constitution
22:46 - How government finances itself and use of force
25:50 - Dave compares government to Mafia
26:59 - Pragmatic concerns in public vs. private sector
29:33 - Government making things more effective and efficient - reality or fiction?
31:14 - The myth of the free market and "money in politics" vs. "politics in money"
33:31 - Decision makers vs. freedom, vigilante justice, and anarchy
37:21 - The Star Wars story of the rise and reign of Palpatine as illustrative of reality
40:15 - Elections as popularity contests
42:22 - Evolution of societal structure
46:39 - The utility or futility of trying to use the system to make improvements

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Episode 003 | Politely Up Yours - I Side With

Joe Macaluso and Dave Rael discuss common ground found in a free website providing the service of identifying where you align and disagree with ideologies, parties, and candidates. The discussion evolves into touching on fairness, rights, and the purpose of law.

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