Politely, Up Yours!

Joe Macaluso and Dave Rael discuss and try to define a free society and what it would look like. They go deep on thinking about a society without government and whether it would work and speculate on how.

• 0:12 - Book Club - Book Club: Man, Economy, and State
• 1:10 - Transition in Rothbard from individual actors to societal interactions
• 3:10 - The "choice to be a slave"
• 5:55 - From hegemonic association to voluntarism
• 9:39 - What is a free society?
• 13:47 - Preventing coercion in a free society
• 17:53 - Allowing society to prioritize their own defense as they see fit
• 20:46 - Parenting and a free society and the treatment of children
• 23:22 - Nature vs nurture and behavior modification
• 27:16 - Self-defense, criminal justice, and vengeance
• 30:40 - Early man and origins of states, motivations for being told what to do
• 33:33 - Really living vs a sheltered life
• 34:21 - Marriage
• 39:03 - Is a free society possible?

• Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market, Scholar's Edition - Murray N. Rothbard
• Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor E. Frankl
• One man, one vote
• Behavior Modification
• Criminal Justice
• 1 Samuel 8: Israel Asks For a King
• 5 monkeys : because we have always done it that way

Dave Rael and Joe Macaluso discuss the nature and acceptability/unacceptability of discrimination. The discussion touches on freedom of association, remedies for unreasonable discrimination, and becoming that which we claim to oppose.

• 0:26 - Book Club: Man, Economy, and State
• 3:01 - Rationality of decisions of individual actors?
• 5:39 - Incompleteness of information
• 7:31 - Consumer goods and producer goods
• 8:39 - Our main topic of the day - Sexuality as illustration of the acceptability of discrimination
• 11:19 - What is discrimination?
• 14:34 - The example of a baker discriminating based on not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple
• 15:35 - Liberty - Freedom of association
• 16:42 - Institutionalization of discrimination
• 19:42 - Discrimination in employment and livelihood
• 24:21 - The importance or nonimportance of membership in a group and how to approach judgement on color of skin
• 27:51 - The futility of persuasion
• 29:46 - The present and future of "runaway" discrimination
• 34:08 - The primacy of sensitivity, empathy, and better parenting
• 37:19 - Reciprocation of open-mindedness and freedom of association
• 39:18 - Becoming the thing we claim to oppose

• Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market, Scholar's Edition - Murray N. Rothbard
• Oregon Wedding Cake Controversy
• Fugitive Slave Act of 1850
• "I have a dream" speech - Martin Luther King

Joe Macaluso and Dave Rael discuss common ground found in a free website providing the service of identifying where you align and disagree with ideologies, parties, and candidates. The discussion evolves into touching on fairness, rights, and the purpose of law.

• 0:01 - The podcast now has a name (but you already knew that)
• 0:19 - The Politely, Up Yours! book club
• 3:10 - Can groups be actors or only individuals?
• 6:07 - Democracy as a restaurant
• 8:39 - Encountering and experiencing isidewith.com and insights regarding common ground
• 11:09 - Governments forcing businesses to do things they don't want to do
• 15:04 - Finding those ideals we share
• 18:12 - Extremism
• 21:56 - Embracing imperfection and striving for improvement
• 22:44 - Fairness
• 27:43 - The suboptimal nature of a two-party system
• 32:46 - Yes and no questions in law - is there a third possibility?
• 33:44 - The nature of rights and guarantees, the purpose of law
• 47:24 - Freedom to be a jerk and freedom of association
• 48:26 - Discrimination in employment

• Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market, Scholar's Edition - Murray N. Rothbard
• "Fear the Boom and Bust" a Hayek vs. Keynes Rap Anthem
• Keynesian economics
• Austrian economics
• Austrian eh?
• isidewith.com
• The Communist Manifesto - Karl Marx
• FBI–Apple encryption dispute
• Best of the Left Podcast
• Oregon Wedding Cake Controversy
• Ian Malcolm explains Chaos theory (Jurassic Park)
• Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution
• Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Dave Rael and Joe Macaluso faith and religion, the impact of religion on societal norm,

• 0:52 - Book Club - Man, Economy, and State
• 2:11 - Elasticity of demand
• 3:17 - Outlay
• 5:47 - Speculation and equilibrium
• 12:13 - Digging into religion and personal experiences of faith and institutional religion
• 19:21 - Science, observation, the scientific method, and faith
• 20:49 - Progression of human knowledge; morality and ethics; the state as religion
• 24:13 - Sources of wisdom, inspiration, and ideas of "right" behavior
• 28:25 - Secular ethics: The Non-aggression principle and Stefan Molyneux's Universtally Preferable Behavior
• 32:22 - Selfishness, virtue, and altruism
• 42:01 - Guilt, Original Sin, and white privilege
• 44:48 - Comparisons of church and state
• 47:28 - Perceptions of "the one percent"
• 49:49 - Sources of conflict and zealotry

• Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market, Scholar's Edition - Murray N. Rothbard
• Arbitrage
• Herbert Henry Dow and the German Chemical Cartel
• Campus Crusade for Christ
• Deism
• Scientific method
• Non-aggression principle
• Stefan Molyneux - Freedomain Radio
• Universally Preferable Behaviour: A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics - Stefan Molyneux
• The Virtue of Selfishness, Centennial Edition - Nathaniel Branden, Ayn Rand
• Dave's Blog Post on Self-Sacrifice
• Original Sin

Joe Macaluso and Dave Rael discuss the nature of supply and demand economics and whether markets work only for those things that are merely wants, rather than needs, or if regulation is necessary to make sure people are able to meet their needs.

• 0:08 - Book Club - Man, Economy, and State
• 1:32 - Expanding a sample economy to multiple economies
• 3:39 - Self-maintenance of market equilibrium
• 6:34 - Supply and demand and the capability/incapability of markets to serve needs as well as they serve wants
• 10:14 - Cancer treatment as an example of failure of the market
• 17:48 - Failures of entire economies
• 20:38 - The nature of money and monetary policy, central banks, and currency manipulation
• 27:45 - Wealth and income imbalances and the potential of the imbalance to distort market equilibria
• 34:04 - Market instability, cycles, and the creation of the Federal Reserve in US History
• 39:18 - Real examples from history of free societies - do they exist?
• 43:06 - Flawed human nature, greed, and concentration of power

• Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market, Scholar's Edition - Murray N. Rothbard
• Costs of Cancer Treatment
• Insuring against the high costs of cancer
• The Peter Schiff Show
• The Spirit Level: Why Greater Equality Makes Societies Stronger - Kate Pickett, Richard Wilkinson
• Best of the Left Podcast
• The Best of the Left Episode with the recommendation of The Spirit Level
• History of the Federal Reserve
• Dr P.J. Hill on the Tom Woods Show - The Not So Wild West
• The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier (Stanford Economics & Finance) - Terry L. Anderson, Peter J. Hill