
Dr. Terry Wahls – How She’s Beating Progressive Multiple Sclerosis Without Drugs Using The Wahls Protocol
09/03/23 • 59 min
What would you do? Would you resign yourself to what others tell you (specifically doctors) that you won’t be able to do anymore? What if you have kids and a family? Not only will you be unable to care for them, but you won’t even be able to do the simplest of functions for yourself.
Losing your quality of life, your freedom and most significantly your ability to take care of yourself was not in the cards for Dr. Terry Wahls. During this dark time in her life she decided to stop being a victim and figure out the answers to questions that nobody seemed to ask. She decided to pioneer a life for herself that nobody up until her had ever embarked upon before. And with any adventure not only is there risk but there’s also lots of uncertainty and doubt.
When you listen to the interview you’ll hear her talk about these doubts and lack of surety as to whether or not the dietary principles she formulated (in the Wahls Protocol) would even work.
Human beings seem to like the idea of modeling in order to achieve something. But those that are successful at the greatest achievements in our time, often do so without the ability to model somebody else. This is why their achievements are so great.
Dr. Terry Wahls had nobody to model. She had nobody to ask questions to, that had any real life experience with defeating or overcoming progressive multiple sclerosis. This is a disease that debilitates you. People die from and nobody seems to know why it’s happening, what’s going on inside the body, what causes it, how to prevent it or what to do if you’ve been diagnosed with it.
Until now...
Dr. Terry Wahls is doing something that shouldn’t be happening. As she says on the show, she’s not “cured” yet....yet being the operative word. But she’s improving at an alarming rate. For most patients suffering from multiple sclerosis, success is usually determined by the ability to slow the progression of the disease.
Think about that. That’s like being a batter in baseball when you’re considered “successful” if you fail 70% of the time when you’re at the plate. In a regular patients case, success is slowing the inevitable.
How sad.
Dr. Terry Wahls took it 2 steps further. She not only slowed the progression of her MS, it’s appearing as though she’s stopped the decline all together. There’s a big difference between “slowing” a disease and “stopping” it. Then she’s taking it a 2nd step further, it’s appearing as though she’s starting to regain function, mobility and a quality of life she lost as a result of the internal scarring and damage caused by MS.
She went from being in a wheel chair for 4 years to riding a bike 5 miles every day after 1 year of following the specific dietary principles outlined in what she now calls, The Wahls Protocol.
At it’s core The Wahls Protocol is centered loosely around the Paleo diet. She discovered the work of Dr. Loren Cordain but felt like she needed targeted nutrition that worked specifically with her condition of multiple sclerosis.
During her years of research motivated by her desire to be able to function regularly again, she pinpointed 31 nutrients (vitamins and minerals) that specifically target key organs and glands in the body to help her condition. Because foods have buffer compounds, she prefers whole foods as the delivery vehicle for these nutrients rather than isolated supplements.
And as such she talks about eating 9 cups of fruits and vegetables per day that can dramatically help repair a quality of life that’s been shattered by this disease.
We hope you enjoy this interview with Dr. Terry Wahls as much as we enjoyed speaking with her. If you know of anybody with autoimmune disease please pass this interview on to them so they can understand that THEY TOO can have hope.
Giving hope is one thing, but giving hope with a protocol and a model is another thing entirely. Because of the ground breaking work of Dr. Terry Wahls, now people can have both...
We discuss the following and so much more:
- What’s causing MS in people?
- Why is this disease so rampant
- The dangers of grains
- How digestion plays a major factor with auto immune diseases
- How internal inflammation and scarring sever the connection between the brain and the muscles
- Why the brain is often the targeted organ for multiple sclerosis
- And so much more!
Learn how Dr. Terry Wahls is defeating multiple sclerosis using nutrition... –
What would you do? Would you resign yourself to what others tell you (specifically doctors) that you won’t be able to do anymore? What if you have kids and a family? Not only will you be unable to care for them, but you won’t even be able to do the simplest of functions for yourself.
Losing your quality of life, your freedom and most significantly your ability to take care of yourself was not in the cards for Dr. Terry Wahls. During this dark time in her life she decided to stop being a victim and figure out the answers to questions that nobody seemed to ask. She decided to pioneer a life for herself that nobody up until her had ever embarked upon before. And with any adventure not only is there risk but there’s also lots of uncertainty and doubt.
When you listen to the interview you’ll hear her talk about these doubts and lack of surety as to whether or not the dietary principles she formulated (in the Wahls Protocol) would even work.
Human beings seem to like the idea of modeling in order to achieve something. But those that are successful at the greatest achievements in our time, often do so without the ability to model somebody else. This is why their achievements are so great.
Dr. Terry Wahls had nobody to model. She had nobody to ask questions to, that had any real life experience with defeating or overcoming progressive multiple sclerosis. This is a disease that debilitates you. People die from and nobody seems to know why it’s happening, what’s going on inside the body, what causes it, how to prevent it or what to do if you’ve been diagnosed with it.
Until now...
Dr. Terry Wahls is doing something that shouldn’t be happening. As she says on the show, she’s not “cured” yet....yet being the operative word. But she’s improving at an alarming rate. For most patients suffering from multiple sclerosis, success is usually determined by the ability to slow the progression of the disease.
Think about that. That’s like being a batter in baseball when you’re considered “successful” if you fail 70% of the time when you’re at the plate. In a regular patients case, success is slowing the inevitable.
How sad.
Dr. Terry Wahls took it 2 steps further. She not only slowed the progression of her MS, it’s appearing as though she’s stopped the decline all together. There’s a big difference between “slowing” a disease and “stopping” it. Then she’s taking it a 2nd step further, it’s appearing as though she’s starting to regain function, mobility and a quality of life she lost as a result of the internal scarring and damage caused by MS.
She went from being in a wheel chair for 4 years to riding a bike 5 miles every day after 1 year of following the specific dietary principles outlined in what she now calls, The Wahls Protocol.
At it’s core The Wahls Protocol is centered loosely around the Paleo diet. She discovered the work of Dr. Loren Cordain but felt like she needed targeted nutrition that worked specifically with her condition of multiple sclerosis.
During her years of research motivated by her desire to be able to function regularly again, she pinpointed 31 nutrients (vitamins and minerals) that specifically target key organs and glands in the body to help her condition. Because foods have buffer compounds, she prefers whole foods as the delivery vehicle for these nutrients rather than isolated supplements.
And as such she talks about eating 9 cups of fruits and vegetables per day that can dramatically help repair a quality of life that’s been shattered by this disease.
We hope you enjoy this interview with Dr. Terry Wahls as much as we enjoyed speaking with her. If you know of anybody with autoimmune disease please pass this interview on to them so they can understand that THEY TOO can have hope.
Giving hope is one thing, but giving hope with a protocol and a model is another thing entirely. Because of the ground breaking work of Dr. Terry Wahls, now people can have both...
We discuss the following and so much more:
- What’s causing MS in people?
- Why is this disease so rampant
- The dangers of grains
- How digestion plays a major factor with auto immune diseases
- How internal inflammation and scarring sever the connection between the brain and the muscles
- Why the brain is often the targeted organ for multiple sclerosis
- And so much more!
Learn how Dr. Terry Wahls is defeating multiple sclerosis using nutrition... –
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