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Parity Podcast - Sexism, Lies, and Fairy Tales: A Conversation with Dr. Anne Beall

Sexism, Lies, and Fairy Tales: A Conversation with Dr. Anne Beall

09/25/22 • 35 min

Parity Podcast
We talk with Dr. Anne Beall, author of Cinderella Did Not Live Happily Ever After: The Hidden Messages in Fairy Tales. Using data science, we discuss fairy tale themes: women are passive and largely devoid of power and agency, except for witches and evil stepmothers, while men are smart, brave, and heroic. Join us as we discuss how these themes continue to hamper women in the modern workplace. You can read a transcript here.
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We talk with Dr. Anne Beall, author of Cinderella Did Not Live Happily Ever After: The Hidden Messages in Fairy Tales. Using data science, we discuss fairy tale themes: women are passive and largely devoid of power and agency, except for witches and evil stepmothers, while men are smart, brave, and heroic. Join us as we discuss how these themes continue to hamper women in the modern workplace. You can read a transcript here.

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1:00 Women are disproportionately responsible for the caring of others

1:30 Dr. Nithila Peter is joining us today

2:36 Today is about solutions

2:45 Part 1 discussed lack of support system

3:32 Part 1 discussed society places a low value on caregiving, no support systems were put in place when mothers entered the workforce, and modern feminism forgot about mothers

4:18 Mothers face bias

4:50 Inaccurate that mothers are less committed

5:35 Mothers earn $.69 for every $1 earned by men

6:30 Motherhood penalty

6:50 Men’s standing increases when becoming fathers

8:20 Women gain skills when becoming mothers

10:40 Emotion, mental, and physical toll of trying to do it all

11:00 Lessons from Indian, Latin, and Indigenous cultures

11:50 Mothers have high cultural value in India

12:25 Story of Nithila’s Indian (South-Asian) family helping to raise her children

13:30 Nithila’s family and extended network enabled her to complete her PhD

14:00 Workplaces should value unique skills of parents

15:20 Obama’s made caregiving more visible through Marian Robinson

18:00 Asian culture offers solution but is a hard model for families stretched thin

19:15 Motherhood is more visible in India for actors, politicians, and others

21:00 Mothers have also been wartime leaders

21:10 Overturning of Roe v. Wade puts additional pressure on the care economy

22:22 18 year old had twins - what support does she have?

23:00 Appalled by mother’s lives now at risk

23:30 Dobbs further reduces mothers’ power in society

24:30 Will gender parity be extended due to Dobbs?

25:30 Difficult to make this prediction

27:50 One solution is more legislative support like paid leave

28:30 Family planning needs more attention

29:09 Flex and hybrid arrangements should stay in place

32:15 Celebrity male leaders do not have reputations for being good caregivers

33:00 We need more caregivers and those with empathy in leadership roles

34:30 We all have equal opportunities to grow caregiving skills

34:45 Many economic successes during pandemic while workers were at home

35:25 Focus on organizational culture

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Co-Hosts: Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick

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