
139. 2% For 1.5 with Yuval Noah Harari
02/17/22 • 67 min
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It took 40-50% of GDP to win WWII, 15% to manage COVID in 2020, so what can 2% do?
Historian, philosopher, bestselling author (and newly welcomed activist!), Yuval Noah Harari joins us to highlight how investing just 2% of global GDP into developing eco-friendly technologies and infrastructure every year could avert “the apocalypse” as he puts it.
His clear, down-to-the-essence thinking shines a bright light on a dark moment. Hit play to listen!
And at the top of the episode, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss the latest UK fringe conservative rumblings of the “Net Zero Scrutiny Group” and how recent populism movements are a wolf in sheeps clothing for communities who feel disenfranchised by politicians and global energy price fluctuations alike.
Plus! This week we have a special musical guest, “Ny Oh” with her song “Australia”. Stick around for that!
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Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
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Mentioned links from the episode:
LISTEN: Christiana guests on The Way Out Is In
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Thanks to our guest this week, Yuval Noah Harari
Yuval Harari
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Sapienship
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The multi-talented, undeniable Ny Oh is our musical guest!
Ny Oh
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Neon Gru
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Tom Rivett-Carnac:
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Paul Dickinson:
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It took 40-50% of GDP to win WWII, 15% to manage COVID in 2020, so what can 2% do?
Historian, philosopher, bestselling author (and newly welcomed activist!), Yuval Noah Harari joins us to highlight how investing just 2% of global GDP into developing eco-friendly technologies and infrastructure every year could avert “the apocalypse” as he puts it.
His clear, down-to-the-essence thinking shines a bright light on a dark moment. Hit play to listen!
And at the top of the episode, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss the latest UK fringe conservative rumblings of the “Net Zero Scrutiny Group” and how recent populism movements are a wolf in sheeps clothing for communities who feel disenfranchised by politicians and global energy price fluctuations alike.
Plus! This week we have a special musical guest, “Ny Oh” with her song “Australia”. Stick around for that!
—
Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
—
Mentioned links from the episode:
LISTEN: Christiana guests on The Way Out Is In
—
Thanks to our guest this week, Yuval Noah Harari
Yuval Harari
Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website
Sapienship
—
The multi-talented, undeniable Ny Oh is our musical guest!
Ny Oh
Instagram | YouTube | BandCamp | Spotify | Website | Facebook
Neon Gru
—
Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
Tom Rivett-Carnac:
Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn
Paul Dickinson:
—
Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message!
Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism!
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138. Just Look Up! with Adam McKay
Today, an earth-shattering comet of an episode as Christiana, Tom and Paul talk to the phenomenally talented Adam McKay about his 4 time Oscar nominated film Don’t Look Up!
Writing and directing a comedy film about climate change is not a challenge for the faint hearted. Not only did Adam McKay take this challenge on, in doing so he created a tour-de-force which dominated global news feeds after its release, quickly took the position of 2nd most watched Netflix original and got EVERYONE talking about climate change.
Listen as he describes his journey of growing climate awareness, how he doesn’t think he will produce another piece of work that ISN’T about climate change, and the breaking news that France will be hosting its own series of ‘Just Look Up’ days as a result of the film.
The hosts are also super charged this week as they tackle the global energy crisis head on, taking us on a whistlestop tour of the major issues that are being played out against an ever increasingly tense geopolitical backdrop. Can gas ever be considered green? What are the implications of this crisis on a swift green energy transition and stability of net zero ambitions?
We think you’ll agree, we really did have it all this week didn’t we?
And! Stick around til the end because playing us out this week is the incredibly talented Sibusile Xaba with his single ‘Angisenalutho’.
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Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
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Mentioned links from the episode:
JOIN: Don’t Look Up’s Count Us In Initiative! (And bring a friend!)
READ: What if Climate Change Were Like a Comet? By Emily Atkin of HEATED
WATCH: Rowanbank’s Positive Imaginings Films
LISTEN: The Last Podcast Ever Made: A Don’t Look Up Podcast
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Thanks to our guest this week, Adam McKay!
Adam McKay
Writer | Director | Producer
HyperObject
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The fantastic Sibusile Xaba is this week’s musical guest!
Sibusile Xaba
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Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
Tom Rivett-Carnac:
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Paul Dickinson:
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Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message!
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140. Every Country Could Be Carbon Negative with Erika Mouynes
“It doesn’t matter what your economy is. It’s just a matter of deciding of protecting your areas and committing to it.”
Last week it was reported that the world’s governments are currently subsidizing our own destruction to the tune of $1.8 Trillion a year...yeah. Not good. What does it look like to turn these subsidies around to promote nature, clean energy, and equitable access to energy across continents?
Maybe this week we have the answer, because in the midst of those irresponsible subsidies, this week we present a story of responsibility, political courage, and negativity! ...The good kind.
Erika Mouynes is the Minister of Foreign Affairs from Panama, a country that recently attained certified Carbon Negative status. How does a country with a fleet of ships that is the 8th largest emitter of greenhouse gases and an economy based on global trade go carbon negative? Minister Mouynes tells all in our interview.
From implementing a Greenhouse Gas Emissions Fee, to the indigenous protection of land, and even some eco-surveillance in space, today’s episode is all about how a Minister of Forein Affairs goes absolutely Environmental.
And stick around ‘til the end for the African Fusion Soul stylings of ‘Ganda Boys’.
Enjoy the show!
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Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!
—
Mentioned links from the episode:
READ: ROADMAP TO REGENERATION: THE EARTHSHOT PRIZE SELECTION PRIORITIES 2022
READ: The Guardian - “World spends $1.8tn a year on subsidies that harm environment, study finds”
READ: Yuval Noah Harari’s 2% More Campaign
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Thanks to our guest this week, Minister Erika Mouynes!
Erika Mouynes
Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Panama
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Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores de Panamá
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African Fusion Soul Group ‘Ganda Boys’ are our musical guest!
Ganda Boys
Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website | YouTube
(Note from Clay - Be sure to check out their YouTube)
Ganda Foundation
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Keep up with Christiana Figueres online:
Tom Rivett-Carnac:
Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn
Paul Dickinson:
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Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message!
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Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism!
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