
94. Breaking Point: Mary Ann Holder
09/09/20 • 49 min
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Listen to Cam and Jen discuss the events that lead to Mary Ann Holder's breaking point.
If you have feelings of wanting to hurt yourself or others please call the Suicide Hotline
In the United States call 1-800-273-8255
For all other countries, here is a link to a list of numbers International Suicide Hotlines by Country on Suicide.org
http://www.suicide.org/hotlines/international-suicide-hotlines.html
This episode was researched and written by E.J. Hammon
E.J. Hammon is a North Carolina writer who is fascinated with serial crime and the psychology behind it. With over a decade of experience writing her blog Confessions of a Bundyphile, https://bundyphile.com/
E.J. has a unique perspective into the mind of brutal serial killer, Ted Bundy. Her work on Bundy has been featured on Bizarrepedia, the True Crime Guy web site, and she wrote Season 3 of the hit crime podcast, Criminology. (Today she adds the “Our True Crime” podcast to her list of credentials.) She is currently working with French author Fabien Richard on a book featuring the voices of Ted Bundy’s victims, survivors, and various law enforcement officials who interacted with him. The book is expected to be published sometime next year under the title “Ted Bundy: Memories of the Beast.” She can currently be found on Facebook and Twitter @RoseDysfunction
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Listener discretion by our long time spooky friend, Edward from @octoberpodvhs
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6w
Produced and musical score by the extremely talented and one of OTCP's bestie, Nico Vitesse
https://wetalkofdreams.com/
Sources:
Daily Mail Reporter. (2011, November 23). "Jilter lover who went on bloody rampage 'gave ex-boyfriend $10,000 cheque to prevent his wife since her' day before the massacre." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065437/North-Carolina-shootings-Mary-Ann-Holder-gave-ex-10-000-cheque-prevent-wife-suing-day-massacre.html
Diranian, S. (2017, June 13) "The Meaning of Being a Mother." www.hellomotherhood.com/article/536071-the-meaning-of-being-a-mother/
"Filicide" Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide
Friedman, S. (2007, October) "Child murder by mothers: patterns and prevention." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174580
Harvard Health Blog. (2011, March) "What pushes a person to commit suicide?" www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/what -pushes-a-person-to-commit-suicide
Huffington Post. (2012, December 19) "Mass Shooting Psychology: Spree Killers Have Consistent Profile, Research Shows." www.huffpost.com/entry/mass-shooting-psychology-spree-killers_n_2331236
Investigation Discovery. (2017, September 28) "Psychology of a Murder-Suicide: What makes a person kill, then kill themselves"
Simmons, D. (2019, July 2) "7 Facts about Alienation of Affection in North Carolina." Sodoma Law. www.sodomalaw.com/7-facts-about-alienation-of-affection-in-north-carolina/
Skerrett, P. (2012, September 24) "Suicide often not preceded by warnings." www.health.harvard.edu/blog/suicide-often-not-preceded-by-warnings-201209245331
"Spree Killer," Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree-killer
WBTV News. (2011, November 22) "Stalking, nude photos and court filings preceded 7 shootings, 4 deaths. www.wbtv.com/story/16101818/st/
Wireback, T. (2012, November 12) "Mary Ann Holder homicides left scars survivors still feel."
Listen to Cam and Jen discuss the events that lead to Mary Ann Holder's breaking point.
If you have feelings of wanting to hurt yourself or others please call the Suicide Hotline
In the United States call 1-800-273-8255
For all other countries, here is a link to a list of numbers International Suicide Hotlines by Country on Suicide.org
http://www.suicide.org/hotlines/international-suicide-hotlines.html
This episode was researched and written by E.J. Hammon
E.J. Hammon is a North Carolina writer who is fascinated with serial crime and the psychology behind it. With over a decade of experience writing her blog Confessions of a Bundyphile, https://bundyphile.com/
E.J. has a unique perspective into the mind of brutal serial killer, Ted Bundy. Her work on Bundy has been featured on Bizarrepedia, the True Crime Guy web site, and she wrote Season 3 of the hit crime podcast, Criminology. (Today she adds the “Our True Crime” podcast to her list of credentials.) She is currently working with French author Fabien Richard on a book featuring the voices of Ted Bundy’s victims, survivors, and various law enforcement officials who interacted with him. The book is expected to be published sometime next year under the title “Ted Bundy: Memories of the Beast.” She can currently be found on Facebook and Twitter @RoseDysfunction
.
Listener discretion by our long time spooky friend, Edward from @octoberpodvhs
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6w
Produced and musical score by the extremely talented and one of OTCP's bestie, Nico Vitesse
https://wetalkofdreams.com/
Sources:
Daily Mail Reporter. (2011, November 23). "Jilter lover who went on bloody rampage 'gave ex-boyfriend $10,000 cheque to prevent his wife since her' day before the massacre." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065437/North-Carolina-shootings-Mary-Ann-Holder-gave-ex-10-000-cheque-prevent-wife-suing-day-massacre.html
Diranian, S. (2017, June 13) "The Meaning of Being a Mother." www.hellomotherhood.com/article/536071-the-meaning-of-being-a-mother/
"Filicide" Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide
Friedman, S. (2007, October) "Child murder by mothers: patterns and prevention." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174580
Harvard Health Blog. (2011, March) "What pushes a person to commit suicide?" www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/what -pushes-a-person-to-commit-suicide
Huffington Post. (2012, December 19) "Mass Shooting Psychology: Spree Killers Have Consistent Profile, Research Shows." www.huffpost.com/entry/mass-shooting-psychology-spree-killers_n_2331236
Investigation Discovery. (2017, September 28) "Psychology of a Murder-Suicide: What makes a person kill, then kill themselves"
Simmons, D. (2019, July 2) "7 Facts about Alienation of Affection in North Carolina." Sodoma Law. www.sodomalaw.com/7-facts-about-alienation-of-affection-in-north-carolina/
Skerrett, P. (2012, September 24) "Suicide often not preceded by warnings." www.health.harvard.edu/blog/suicide-often-not-preceded-by-warnings-201209245331
"Spree Killer," Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree-killer
WBTV News. (2011, November 22) "Stalking, nude photos and court filings preceded 7 shootings, 4 deaths. www.wbtv.com/story/16101818/st/
Wireback, T. (2012, November 12) "Mary Ann Holder homicides left scars survivors still feel."
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93. Living a Lie: Mary and Chester Burge
Today we are going back in time where things were a bit more simple. There was no internet or cable tv and children played outside unsupervised until the street lamps came on. Everyone went to church on Sundays in their Sunday best and the American dream was to get married to your true love, own a house, and have 2.5 kids. The year is 1960 and we are going to pay a visit to Macon, Georgia and while a lot has changed in the past 60 years, some things never change like greed, lust, and murder. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'Living a Lie: Mary and Chester Burge' on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.
Just like always, our listener discretion is provided by the dreamy voiced Edward October from @octoberpodVHS and all our awesome (original) music and editing is provided by Nico from @wetalkofdreams.
Sources:
https://www.macon.com/news/local/crime/article202853319.html
https://www.inquisitr.com/2619541/chester-burge-mary-burge-a-crime-to-remember-investigation-discovery-louis-roosevelt-johnson-macon-georgia-murder-trial/
https://www.gatewaymacon.org/top-5-lists/top-5-sinistershirleyhill.cms
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/local/post-time-chester-burge-freed-in-wifes-death-but-d/nsNcJ/
https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/history/macon-criminal-history-chester-burge-murder/93-e7ad6888-405e-404c-acf0-e7a581303809
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It is a Saturday afternoon on January 5, 2002, when Michael Gerboc drove to the floral store he owned with his partner florist, Ed Kirby, to check up Ed and the store. When Michael arrived and called out for Ed, he didn’t get a response but soon he finds Ed. Ed Kirby, age 48, is on the ground surrounded by a pool of blood. The popular florist had been murdered. He had been shot execution-style in the back of the head so he never saw it coming. A 9-millimeter shell was located nearby. His wallet was missing and the cash register was empty. Michael was devastated. Sadly this would not be the only murder this ruthless coward would be responsible for but there was one final shock that would leave many in disbelief.
Join Jen and Cam as we discuss Killer in Steel City in this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.
As always, our favorite partners in crime help us in all our episodes. Edward October does our creepy listener discretion: @octoberpodVHS Check out his storytelling which will be perfect to listen to as we roll into fall. Nico from @wetalkofdreams does all our original music but, as our editor, also makes us sound good and we all know how difficult that task has to be.
Sources:
https://www.semissourian.com/story/62121.html
https://thesouthern.com/news/local/man-gets-life-in-prison-for-sparta-murder/article_d8e63c4c-0a47-5b27-8600-9719ad6d359e.html
https://www.sj-r.com/article/20110618/NEWS/306189977
https://qconline.com/news/illinois/former-police-officer-admits-murder-of-granite-city-florist/article_60bf18ad-c40b-597e-95e4-dc6e4f528e6b.html
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2215.html
https://www.bustle.com/p/where-is-ryan-parker-in-2018-the-to-catch-a-killer-finale-explores-a-complicated-murder-case-12273679 (also check out the episode!)
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