Ep. 47: Ryan Myher from No Code No Problem talks about his entrepreneurial path to no-code

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07/15/20 • 43 min

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TLDR;Some Good Quotes

So Ben [Tossell from Makerpad], I was following, both of them and I was like looking: I was sitting there one night and I looked up no-code in Apple Podcasts and Spotify. I couldn't find anything. So I messaged Joe on Twitter and I was like, “Hey, I have this idea. I want to start the no-code podcast, and I'm going to call no problem, and I'm gonna do it.” And he's like, yeah, do it. And then like I recorded that night and the next morning I published it and here we are today.
The only reason that I knew about Glide Apps in the first place was I saw an ad somewhere and I bookmarked it and was like, I may need this later on. Like, I'll check it out later. And then whenever I got that text [about parties for the weekend], it was like that moment. It was like, in my head, I was like, Oh, this is definitely like, I can build this [app, fucked up] on glide apps. So I went on and I built it like extremely fast within an hour. And I started putting it on like my Snapchat and stuff.
I was marketing this book [Podcast Growth Hacking: 0 Plays to $5k in 5 Months] out to like podcast hosts and there are these Facebook groups on obviously Facebook that have like 30 K plus people in it. And I didn't realize how untechnical the majority of podcast hosts are like; compared to them, we are like really technical people. But then compared to people like Emmanuel and Jeremy and all these people from like Dollo and all these companies, like, we're obviously not technical. It's just funny to see the playing field in which what we consider technical and not technical.
I would be interested to see how many active users are there a day that actually builds a Bubble. I think that would be more interesting... People were spending like 30 minutes to an hour, a day on Bubble or more like, I feel like that would be way more interesting and give you a lot more insight in the kind of like who you're trying to attract than it would be.

Summary

Ryan Myher, founder and host from No Code No Problem, joins Jeremy in a maybe off the record conversation about podcasts, top no-code tools, the struggle to freemiums, and thin lines in the field.

TLDR;Some Good Quotes

So Ben [Tossell from Makerpad], I was following, both of them and I was like looking: I was sitting there one night and I looked up no-code in Apple Podcasts and Spotify. I couldn't find anything. So I messaged Joe on Twitter and I was like, “Hey, I have this idea. I want to start the no-code podcast, and I'm going to call no problem, and I'm gonna do it.” And he's like, yeah, do it. And then like I recorded that night and the next morning I published it and here we are today.
The only reason that I knew about Glide Apps in the first place was I saw an ad somewhere and I bookmarked it and was like, I may need this later on. Like, I'll check it out later. And then whenever I got that text [about parties for the weekend], it was like that moment. It was like, in my head, I was like, Oh, this is definitely like, I can build this [app, fucked up] on glide apps. So I went on and I built it like extremely fast within an hour. And I started putting it on like my Snapchat and stuff.
I was marketing this book [Podcast Growth Hacking: 0 Plays to $5k in 5 Months] out to like podcast hosts and there are these Facebook groups on obviously Facebook that have like 30 K plus people in it. And I didn't realize how untechnical the majority of podcast hosts are like; compared to them, we are like really technical people. But then compared to people like Emmanuel and Jeremy and all these people from like Dollo and all these companies, like, we're obviously not technical. It's just funny to see the playing field in which what we consider technical and not technical.
I would be interested to see how many active users are there a day that actually builds a Bubble. I think that would be more interesting... People were spending like 30 minutes to an hour, a day on Bubble or more like, I feel like that would be way more interesting and give you a lot more insight in the kind of like who you're trying to attract than it would be.

Summary

Ryan Myher, founder and host from No Code No Problem, joins Jeremy in a maybe off the record conversation about podcasts, top no-code tools, the struggle to freemiums, and thin lines in the field.

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Ep. 44: Jeremy Blalock from Adalo talks about growing and retargeting your start-up from your community feedback

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I think that being in a competitive space, it made sense to us to just give away the product for free to use it at a basic level. But you can't actually. Publish a native mobile app and you can't publish it on a custom domain for web unless you pay.
So one thing is it does feel very natural for designers to use our product because it is based on sketch, essentially. But at the end of the day, it's people who are a little bit more on the PowerPoint and Excel world who seem to be excelling at it versus people who are just purely visual designers.
If you're building a real startup, you're going to be paying thousands of dollars a month for something, regardless of what you're doing. But when you're just starting out, I think that it's important to have something cheap enough that people see as cheap, and see as attractive, and see as like within their range of affordability. But without kind of realizing that it's going to eventually be a lot more.
We feel like our product itself matters and the quality of the way that you build the apps, the interface, all that stuff. But I think that really, you have to build some kind of flywheel that will actually generate more value as more people are there. And I think that the things that we'll do over time are just building that ecosystem and that community. And so having really trying to get more and more people involved in building knowledge around the tool, that will really build value longterm.
I was doing a lot of customized stuff just to get these very small number of customer accounts to be successful and to be published. And I feel like at that point it was a big internal struggle of, you know, how do I actually get my time back so I can build the real horror platform and actually get this thing to be successful?
I kind of also wished that I just did some sort of launch earlier. I know that the product wasn't polished, I know that it wasn't perfect or nearly as good as it is now, but I feel like getting that early feedback would have been good because now a lot of what people are doing, doesn't really require things that we didn't have then. It's just that we didn't get the necessary, like kind of lift-off until later on. And I think that the whole no-code movement has helped out a ton. So I can't really, it's hard to say what would have happened at that point.
The majority of our users really just come from word of mouth and referrals from other people are using the platform and kind of organic sources like that. So, we've really kind of tried to put as much effort as we can into building our communities, both on slide, head on the forum and, you know, really building a big Twitter following.

Summary

Jeremy Blalock, co-founder and CEO from Adalo, joins Jeremy in a conversation about the turnarounds and creatives process to launch the company and the importance of having a strength no-code community to strengthen the bonds with customers and succeed in the field.