
No Password Required Podcast Episode 45 — Lisa Plaggemier
01/10/24 • 57 min
Summary
In this episode, Jack Clabby and Kayley Melton discuss the upcoming Sunshine Cyber Conference and their collaboration with Winn Schwartau. They also talk about the importance of diverse cybersecurity talent and their plans for a joint session at the conference. The hosts then interview Lisa Plaggemier, the executive director at the National Cybersecurity Alliance, who shares her career journey and the role of creativity and curiosity in cybersecurity. They also discuss the impact of COVID-19 on the cybersecurity industry and the importance of humor and satire in cybersecurity training. The episode concludes with a lifestyle polygraph segment. In this episode, the conversation covers various topics related to comedy, storytelling, and implementing change in organizations. The power of the internet is discussed, highlighting the potential consequences of online content. The guest shares her favorite comedy movies, emphasizing the comedic element in her expertise. The use of humor in training and awareness programs is explored, along with the challenges of implementing change in organizations. Dealing with roadblocks in security and the passion for security awareness are also discussed. The episode concludes with information on how to get in touch with the guest and a recap of what was learned.
Takeaways
- The Sunshine Cyber Conference features keynote speakers from the No Password Required podcast, including Winn Schwartau.
- The hosts will be doing their first on-site remote recording at the Sunshine Cyber Conference, featuring keynote speaker Tamiko Fletcher.
- The National Cybersecurity Alliance focuses on training and awareness, using creativity and humor to engage and educate people.
- Comedy movies, such as Monty Python and the Holy Grail, can be a source of expertise and inspiration.
- Humor can be effectively used in training and awareness programs to engage and educate participants.
- Implementing change in organizations can be challenging, but finding allies and overcoming roadblocks is essential.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:28 Fishing for Potential, the RTFM Guide to Diverse Cybersecurity Talent
02:25 Live On-Site Remote Recording and Keynote Speakers
03:51 Sunshine Cyber Conference and Registration
04:46 Interview with Lisa Plaggemier
05:15 Background and Role at the National Cybersecurity Alliance
05:53 Transition to Security and Marketing Collaboration
06:22 Incident Response and Training and Awareness
07:20 Leadership and Skills in Cybersecurity
08:18 Kubikle Series and Creativity in Security
09:17 Curiosity and Creativity in Cybersecurity
10:48 Naming and Shaming in Pen Tests and Phishing Testing
11:41 DDoS Attack and Incident Response
12:38 Neurodiversity and Cybersecurity
13:21 Leading a Team During COVID-19
14:21 Creating Engaging Training Content
15:19 Global Data and Data Privacy Laws
16:18 Humor and Satire in Cybersecurity Training
18:47 Kubikle Series and Satire in Cybersecurity
20:41 Creating Kubikle Series and Future Plans
23:03Trust in Password Managers
24:22 The Importance of Curiosity in Cybersecurity
25:52 The Oh Behave Report and Behavioral Science
26:50 Communicating Security Information Effectively
28:44 Naming and Shaming in Phishing Testing
29:39 Accepting Risk and Escalation Plans
30:38 The Role of Security Teams and HR
32:35 Building Trust in Password Managers
33:32 Global Data and Cybersecurity Awareness
36:51 The Importance of Curiosity in Cybersecurity Hiring
40:03 The Underground Student-Led Newspaper
41:12 The Significance of Curiosity and Creativity in Career
50:44 The Power of the Internet
51:14 Favorite Comedy Movies
52:12 Using Humor in Training and Awareness
53:38 Implementing Change in Organizations
54:55 Dealing with Roadblocks in Security
55:45 Passion for Security Awareness
56:06 How to Get in Touch
56:37 What Was Learned
57:11 Closing Remarks
Summary
In this episode, Jack Clabby and Kayley Melton discuss the upcoming Sunshine Cyber Conference and their collaboration with Winn Schwartau. They also talk about the importance of diverse cybersecurity talent and their plans for a joint session at the conference. The hosts then interview Lisa Plaggemier, the executive director at the National Cybersecurity Alliance, who shares her career journey and the role of creativity and curiosity in cybersecurity. They also discuss the impact of COVID-19 on the cybersecurity industry and the importance of humor and satire in cybersecurity training. The episode concludes with a lifestyle polygraph segment. In this episode, the conversation covers various topics related to comedy, storytelling, and implementing change in organizations. The power of the internet is discussed, highlighting the potential consequences of online content. The guest shares her favorite comedy movies, emphasizing the comedic element in her expertise. The use of humor in training and awareness programs is explored, along with the challenges of implementing change in organizations. Dealing with roadblocks in security and the passion for security awareness are also discussed. The episode concludes with information on how to get in touch with the guest and a recap of what was learned.
Takeaways
- The Sunshine Cyber Conference features keynote speakers from the No Password Required podcast, including Winn Schwartau.
- The hosts will be doing their first on-site remote recording at the Sunshine Cyber Conference, featuring keynote speaker Tamiko Fletcher.
- The National Cybersecurity Alliance focuses on training and awareness, using creativity and humor to engage and educate people.
- Comedy movies, such as Monty Python and the Holy Grail, can be a source of expertise and inspiration.
- Humor can be effectively used in training and awareness programs to engage and educate participants.
- Implementing change in organizations can be challenging, but finding allies and overcoming roadblocks is essential.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:28 Fishing for Potential, the RTFM Guide to Diverse Cybersecurity Talent
02:25 Live On-Site Remote Recording and Keynote Speakers
03:51 Sunshine Cyber Conference and Registration
04:46 Interview with Lisa Plaggemier
05:15 Background and Role at the National Cybersecurity Alliance
05:53 Transition to Security and Marketing Collaboration
06:22 Incident Response and Training and Awareness
07:20 Leadership and Skills in Cybersecurity
08:18 Kubikle Series and Creativity in Security
09:17 Curiosity and Creativity in Cybersecurity
10:48 Naming and Shaming in Pen Tests and Phishing Testing
11:41 DDoS Attack and Incident Response
12:38 Neurodiversity and Cybersecurity
13:21 Leading a Team During COVID-19
14:21 Creating Engaging Training Content
15:19 Global Data and Data Privacy Laws
16:18 Humor and Satire in Cybersecurity Training
18:47 Kubikle Series and Satire in Cybersecurity
20:41 Creating Kubikle Series and Future Plans
23:03Trust in Password Managers
24:22 The Importance of Curiosity in Cybersecurity
25:52 The Oh Behave Report and Behavioral Science
26:50 Communicating Security Information Effectively
28:44 Naming and Shaming in Phishing Testing
29:39 Accepting Risk and Escalation Plans
30:38 The Role of Security Teams and HR
32:35 Building Trust in Password Managers
33:32 Global Data and Cybersecurity Awareness
36:51 The Importance of Curiosity in Cybersecurity Hiring
40:03 The Underground Student-Led Newspaper
41:12 The Significance of Curiosity and Creativity in Career
50:44 The Power of the Internet
51:14 Favorite Comedy Movies
52:12 Using Humor in Training and Awareness
53:38 Implementing Change in Organizations
54:55 Dealing with Roadblocks in Security
55:45 Passion for Security Awareness
56:06 How to Get in Touch
56:37 What Was Learned
57:11 Closing Remarks
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No Password Required Podcast Episode 44 — Jayson Street
Jayson Street — Chief Adversarial Officer at Secure Yeti, a DEF CON Groups Global Ambassador, and a world-class awkward hugger Jayson Street, the dynamic Chief Adversarial Officer at Secure Yeti, has worn many masks throughout his life and career. He was once named a “World-Class Hacker” on the National Geographic series "Breakthrough Cyber-Terror," but he prefers the simpler title of Hacker, Helper, and Human. In this episode, Jayson joins Carlton Fields P.A.’s Jack Clabby and KnowBe4’s VP of Remote Publishing Teams Kayley Melton to talk about his journey of self-discovery that led him from being an award-winning janitor at McDonald's to one of the world’s most infamous ethical hackers. From his early childhood, Jayson has embraced hacking as a way of life, embodying the spirit of relentless exploration, innovation, and resilience. Like our favorite co-host Kayley, Jayson uncovered a new layer of his identity in his adulthood when he discovered that he is neurodivergent. He dives deep into how this new understanding altered his perception of himself, allowed him to embrace the various “masks” he wears throughout life, and discovered that his unique mind is actually his superpower. He also shares extraordinary stories of how he gained entry into some of the hardest-to-access cyber targets in the world. To start off the show, Jack and Kayley talk about the celebrity that’s topping the Hacker Celebrity Hot List as the celeb whose name is used most by cybercriminals when creating online scams. Hint: he’s just Ken... You can follow Jayson on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jstreet/ You can follow Jayson on Twitter here: @jaysonstreet You can learn more about Jayson here: https://jaysonestreet.com You can learn more about Secure Yeti here: https://www.secureyeti.com/
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No Password Required Podcast Episode 46 — Dr. Diana Burley
SummaryThe conversation discusses the arrest of Ola Segun Simpson Adagorin, a Nigerian national facing US federal charges for a business email compromise scheme. The collaboration between the FBI and Ghana is highlighted, along with the role of the legal attache job in solving crimes with international impact. The scheme and indictment details are explored, emphasizing the sophistication of the attack. Dr. Diana Burley, Vice Provost for Research and Innovation at American University, shares insights on cybersecurity education and workforce readiness. The importance of understanding human behavior in cybersecurity is discussed, along with strategies for engaging in conversations and addressing the search for cyber unicorns. In this episode, the importance of password security and the various methods to enhance it are discussed. The conversation covers common password mistakes, the use of password managers, multi-factor authentication, biometric authentication, and the future of password security.
Takeaways
- Collaboration between law enforcement agencies is crucial in solving cybercrime cases with international implications.
- Understanding human behavior is essential in addressing cybersecurity challenges and shaping effective policies.
- Digital literacy and foundational cybersecurity skills should be integrated into education across disciplines.
- Creating a culture of cybersecurity requires a balance between rules and creativity, and a focus on psychological safety.
- Engaging in conversations with strangers can be facilitated by finding common interests and making personal connections. Create strong and unique passwords for each online account.
- Avoid common password mistakes such as using personal information or easily guessable patterns.
- Consider using a password manager to securely store and generate passwords.
- Enable multi-factor authentication whenever possible for an added layer of security.
- Biometric authentication, such as fingerprint or facial recognition, can provide convenient and secure access to devices and accounts.
- Passwordless authentication methods, such as biometrics or hardware tokens, may become more prevalent in the future.
- Stay informed about emerging technologies and best practices in password security.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Arrest of Ola Segun Simpson Adagorin
01:24 Collaboration between FBI and Ghana
03:15 Scheme and Indictment Details
04:44 Legal Attache Job and Collaboration
06:10 Deterrence and Sealed Indictments
07:36 Introduction of Dr. Diana Burley
08:31 Dr. Burley's Background and Role at American University
09:23 Interest in Cybersecurity and Technology
10:21 American University's Role in Educating Policymakers
12:15 Engaging with Leaders and Shaping Policy
13:36 Engaging with Students and Future Leaders
14:28 American University's Focus on Policy and Research
15:27 Misconceptions about the Cybersecurity Workforce
16:23 Digital Literacy and Foundational Cybersecurity Skills
18:45 Retaining Skilled Members in the Academic Environment
19:43 Benefits of Engaging as a University Faculty Member
20:37 Understanding Human Behavior in Cybersecurity
22:05 Insights from Research on Human Behavior
23:25 Understanding Employee Behavior in Cybersecurity
24:47 Creating a Culture of Cybersecurity
27:08 Strategies for Initiating Conversations with Strangers
31:50 The Cyber Unicorn Project
35:08 Addressing the Search for Cyber Unicorns
41:45 Lifestyle Polygraph
50:57 Understanding Irrational Behavior and Self-Awareness
53:37 Engaging in Conversations with Strangers
02:30 The Importance of Password Security
10:15 Common Password Mistakes
18:45 Password Managers
27:10 Multi-Factor Authentication
35:40 Biometric Authentication
44:20 Passwordless Authentication
52:30 Future of Password Security
58:21 Conclusion
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