EP09: Time does not pass. We, on the other hand, pass through it – and make forms of it (Part 2) with Jude Anogwih
12/28/20 • 53 min
"I am looking at Time as an element of art, an element of expression not as a clock or calendar. I am looking at the capacity you have as an individual to define a progression of your existence and your event."
In this episode, which continues our reflection on Time, Emeka Okereke is in conversation with Jude Anogwih. It opens with Anogwih's proposition to think of Time as an element, an interactive material for expression and agency. From here on, the conversation takes the form of open-ended questions serving to broaden horizons, while acting as mirrors that do not only reflect ourselves to us but calls for the inclusion of the reflection of others into our views of the future.
While the aim is to discuss Time beyond its quantifiable entrapping, there are few pointers in the conversation which serve as support structures for thoughts explored:
"The concept of difference, of becoming of multiplicity, of diversity, of equity – these are things that are resonating today. How do we create a society that reflects all and not one?"
"I am always reluctant [to align with] the idea of "the future". But I am interested in the idea of "future generations" because these are more of minds. How do we shape minds that will understand and accept the dynamics and changes of Time?"
"Sometimes, we look at the future from our individual myopic reflection; we are not asking ourselves: how do we bring in the reflection of others into that future?"
"To understand and comment on Time is like trying to embrace the sea or trying to give a full hug to the ocean."
"There is a lot we are rethinking: the concept of difference, but also the whole idea of becoming".
"This different interactive concept of Time is what I, as an
artist, look at. The dynamics of it all; how it defines today, and now and, possibly, the future we are trying to shape."
How do we accept what we are not familiar with?"
"How do we live and thrive in the unprecedented?"
"How do we create this amazing flower of sadness that will help others to be hopeful, and remind me of where I was and what I want myself to experience next?
Listen to the full episode on: https://nkatapodcast.com/show/dot
Also available on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast, Deezer, Overcast, and more.
Hi, amazing listeners! Emeka Okereke here. I am the founder and host of this show. If you’ve enjoyed the stories, insights, and creativity we bring to this podcast series, I invite you to join my Patreon community at patreon.com/EmekaOkereke. 🎉
By becoming a patron, you’ll gain exclusive access to my artistic world, including:
• Behind-the-scenes content from my photography projects.
• Sneak peeks of upcoming films, vlogs, and video podcasts.
• Exclusive DJ playlists curated just for you.
• Bonus podcast episodes and a chance to contribute to future topics.
Whether you’re a fan of the podcast, my visual storytelling, or simply love art and creativity, there’s a tier for you. Your support helps me continue creating high-quality content, and it truly means the world to me.
Thank you for listening. Follow Nkata Podcast Station on Instagram @nkatapodcast and Twitter.
See the website for extensive materials: nkatapodcast.com
"I am looking at Time as an element of art, an element of expression not as a clock or calendar. I am looking at the capacity you have as an individual to define a progression of your existence and your event."
In this episode, which continues our reflection on Time, Emeka Okereke is in conversation with Jude Anogwih. It opens with Anogwih's proposition to think of Time as an element, an interactive material for expression and agency. From here on, the conversation takes the form of open-ended questions serving to broaden horizons, while acting as mirrors that do not only reflect ourselves to us but calls for the inclusion of the reflection of others into our views of the future.
While the aim is to discuss Time beyond its quantifiable entrapping, there are few pointers in the conversation which serve as support structures for thoughts explored:
"The concept of difference, of becoming of multiplicity, of diversity, of equity – these are things that are resonating today. How do we create a society that reflects all and not one?"
"I am always reluctant [to align with] the idea of "the future". But I am interested in the idea of "future generations" because these are more of minds. How do we shape minds that will understand and accept the dynamics and changes of Time?"
"Sometimes, we look at the future from our individual myopic reflection; we are not asking ourselves: how do we bring in the reflection of others into that future?"
"To understand and comment on Time is like trying to embrace the sea or trying to give a full hug to the ocean."
"There is a lot we are rethinking: the concept of difference, but also the whole idea of becoming".
"This different interactive concept of Time is what I, as an
artist, look at. The dynamics of it all; how it defines today, and now and, possibly, the future we are trying to shape."
How do we accept what we are not familiar with?"
"How do we live and thrive in the unprecedented?"
"How do we create this amazing flower of sadness that will help others to be hopeful, and remind me of where I was and what I want myself to experience next?
Listen to the full episode on: https://nkatapodcast.com/show/dot
Also available on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast, Deezer, Overcast, and more.
Hi, amazing listeners! Emeka Okereke here. I am the founder and host of this show. If you’ve enjoyed the stories, insights, and creativity we bring to this podcast series, I invite you to join my Patreon community at patreon.com/EmekaOkereke. 🎉
By becoming a patron, you’ll gain exclusive access to my artistic world, including:
• Behind-the-scenes content from my photography projects.
• Sneak peeks of upcoming films, vlogs, and video podcasts.
• Exclusive DJ playlists curated just for you.
• Bonus podcast episodes and a chance to contribute to future topics.
Whether you’re a fan of the podcast, my visual storytelling, or simply love art and creativity, there’s a tier for you. Your support helps me continue creating high-quality content, and it truly means the world to me.
Thank you for listening. Follow Nkata Podcast Station on Instagram @nkatapodcast and Twitter.
See the website for extensive materials: nkatapodcast.com
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EP08: Time does not pass. We, on the other hand, pass through it – and make forms of it (part 1)
We often hear such expressions as "Time passes". "Don't waste time". "Buy time". "Spend time". But, is time quantifiable in the sense we use it? Isn't it a paradox, this inclination to contain what contains us?
These are some of the thoughts (and more) foregrounding this reflection on and about time. This podcast is an introduction to a series of conversations aimed at fleshing out thoughts regarding our understanding/reading of time as a non-physical yet uncircumventable component our connectedness.
Subsequent episodes will feature guests from different parts of the globe, st each discussing and expanding on specific themes.
Follow the conversation on www.nkatapodcast.com/dot
Also available on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast, Deezer, Overcast and more.
Hi, amazing listeners! Emeka Okereke here. I am the founder and host of this show. If you’ve enjoyed the stories, insights, and creativity we bring to this podcast series, I invite you to join my Patreon community at patreon.com/EmekaOkereke. 🎉
By becoming a patron, you’ll gain exclusive access to my artistic world, including:
• Behind-the-scenes content from my photography projects.
• Sneak peeks of upcoming films, vlogs, and video podcasts.
• Exclusive DJ playlists curated just for you.
• Bonus podcast episodes and a chance to contribute to future topics.
Whether you’re a fan of the podcast, my visual storytelling, or simply love art and creativity, there’s a tier for you. Your support helps me continue creating high-quality content, and it truly means the world to me.
Thank you for listening. Follow Nkata Podcast Station on Instagram @nkatapodcast and Twitter.
See the website for extensive materials: nkatapodcast.com
Next Episode
EP10: Time does not pass. We, on the other hand, pass through it - and make forms of it (Part 3) with J. Redza
In this episode of "Time Does Not Pass. We, on the other hand, pass through it - and make forms of it", Emeka Okereke (Berlin) is in conversation with J. Redza (Kuala Lumpur). They reflect on the idea of Time in relation to age(ing).
This episode can be best described as a "rumination between millennials". Emeka Okereke and J. Redza were born on the same year (1980, Kaduna Nigeria, and Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) - a coincidence that preceded their encounter in 2006 over the internet. Insofar as they are yet to meet in person, this conversation builds on their relationship forged in the umbilical Time portal sustained by cyber connection. They managed to share what Emeka Okereke called "a communal time-zone" over 14 years.
What does this kind of connection mean as we head further into the subjectivist era of the 21st century? What is the foremost millennials' role in bridging the gap between a post-generation and the future generations of the world? What does it feel like to be forty – both as a man and a woman – in our Time? Is forty the new thirty as the younger generation become less conservative and gradually removed from the previous generation's cautious disposition?
J. Redza offers a few suggestions for a better appraisal of these thoughts:
"We are still in the consciousness place where we are learning how to use the internet. We need to be more conscious of how we use the internet rather than how it uses us".
"In many different cultures, we talk about fate, and that there are many circles in life. This I find fascinating. So I don't see things in a linear way."
"Despite what you want to do in life or online [cyberspace], the basis is your sense of who you are; it has to be very strong."
The conversation rounds up with the need to be grounded in oneself. To be disciplined. And finally to consider that if one has good health, it translates to the wealth of Time. Yet this kind of wealth cannot be saved in a deposit box or a bank account. It is to be used every day – in the present.
Host: Emeka Okereke (Berlin)
Guest: J. Redza (Kuala Lumpur)
Production: E.O Multimedia LTD.
Album Art: J. Redza Art
Music: DJ Kupeski.
Timestamps:
0:00: Introduction by Emeka Okereke
3:47: J. Redza joins the conversation via Zoom
6:29: It's as if we have known each other since
Hi, amazing listeners! Emeka Okereke here. I am the founder and host of this show. If you’ve enjoyed the stories, insights, and creativity we bring to this podcast series, I invite you to join my Patreon community at patreon.com/EmekaOkereke. 🎉
By becoming a patron, you’ll gain exclusive access to my artistic world, including:
• Behind-the-scenes content from my photography projects.
• Sneak peeks of upcoming films, vlogs, and video podcasts.
• Exclusive DJ playlists curated just for you.
• Bonus podcast episodes and a chance to contribute to future topics.
Whether you’re a fan of the podcast, my visual storytelling, or simply love art and creativity, there’s a tier for you. Your support helps me continue creating high-quality content, and it truly means the world to me.
Thank you for listening. Follow Nkata Podcast Station on Instagram @nkatapodcast and Twitter.
See the website for extensive materials: nkatapodcast.com
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