
061 Sandy Mamoli Self-Organizing Teams, Self-Selection, Self-Organizing Organizations, and Holacracies
10/01/19 • 45 min
I was just following the Agile Australia conference hashtag (#agileaus) on Twitter when Sandy's name came up. When I read about her conference talk is saw words like self-organizing teams. OK. I know that one. That's what scrum teams do well. But then I saw the term self-selection. Self-selection? Does than mean I can put myself on my team at work I want? Mostly, yes, according to Sandy Mamoli. And Sandy knows about self-selection. She wrote the book on it, "Creating Great Teams: How Self-Selection Lets People Excel." Obviously, I had to get her on the show to talk about it. Sandy Mamoli is an Agile coach and founder of Nomad8, a small but perfectly formed Agile consultancy in Auckland, New Zealand. She's a former Olympian, a geek, a gadget junkie, international keynote speaker. She has a masters degree in artificial intelligence and knows quite a lot about Agile. As you can tell from the interview, I didn't know anything. This interview truly was about me asking Sandy a bunch of questions to learn how self-selection is creating organizations of the future.
Learn more about Sandy:
- About her session at Agile Australia: http://agileaustralia.com.au/2019/speakers/sandy-mamoli/
- Her company, Nomad8: https://nomad8.com
- Her slides on Holacracy: https://nomad8.com/articles/holacracy-slides/
- Sandy actually implemented this stuff: https://www.slideshare.net/smamol/how-i-tried-holacracy-and-lived-to-tell-the-tale-151317408
- A more detailed write up on Holacracy: https://nomad8.com/uploads/pdf/Holocracy_How_I_survived_to_Tell_The_Tale_article.pdf
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I was just following the Agile Australia conference hashtag (#agileaus) on Twitter when Sandy's name came up. When I read about her conference talk is saw words like self-organizing teams. OK. I know that one. That's what scrum teams do well. But then I saw the term self-selection. Self-selection? Does than mean I can put myself on my team at work I want? Mostly, yes, according to Sandy Mamoli. And Sandy knows about self-selection. She wrote the book on it, "Creating Great Teams: How Self-Selection Lets People Excel." Obviously, I had to get her on the show to talk about it. Sandy Mamoli is an Agile coach and founder of Nomad8, a small but perfectly formed Agile consultancy in Auckland, New Zealand. She's a former Olympian, a geek, a gadget junkie, international keynote speaker. She has a masters degree in artificial intelligence and knows quite a lot about Agile. As you can tell from the interview, I didn't know anything. This interview truly was about me asking Sandy a bunch of questions to learn how self-selection is creating organizations of the future.
Learn more about Sandy:
- About her session at Agile Australia: http://agileaustralia.com.au/2019/speakers/sandy-mamoli/
- Her company, Nomad8: https://nomad8.com
- Her slides on Holacracy: https://nomad8.com/articles/holacracy-slides/
- Sandy actually implemented this stuff: https://www.slideshare.net/smamol/how-i-tried-holacracy-and-lived-to-tell-the-tale-151317408
- A more detailed write up on Holacracy: https://nomad8.com/uploads/pdf/Holocracy_How_I_survived_to_Tell_The_Tale_article.pdf
We write about all of our podcasts! Check out the full posts and learn what we learn from our guests at nicework.fm.
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060 Pamela Meyer Agility is Responding to Unplanned Situations in an Organized Way
The majority of executives say that agility is a critical organizational capability, says Pamela Meyer, author of Agility Shift: Creating Agile and Effective Leaders, Teams, and Organizations. The irony is that most organizations aren't agile. They aren't doing it. If they are doing it, it's coming from a mindset that isn't agile. That's a hard pill to swallow. Leaders know they have to be more agile, responsive, and nimble. But there is still a belief that agility is risky. "What if we make bad decisions?" This is the wrong mindset because actually agility is about minimizing risk while delivering value faster to customers. We talk to Pamela about how organizations can shift their collective mindsets and become more agile.
Learn more about Pamela:
- Pamela's Website: https://pamela-meyer.com/
- Her Book: https://www.amazon.com/Agility-Shift-Creating-Effective-Organizations/dp/1629560707/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431653481&sr=8-1&keywords=the+agility+shift
- The Agility Shift Inventory: https://pamela-meyer.com/agility-shift-inventory/
- On Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelameyerphd/
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062 Architecting a Successful Jira Cloud Migration
If you've been running your Atlassian stack on Server or Data Center, you've probably heard the buzz about migrating to Cloud. But rather than just telling you about the benefits of moving to Cloud — better cost control, easier upgrades, and effortless scale – we want to show you why it's the smart move by walking you through our own experience with the upgrade.
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- The tipping point that finally made the decision for us
- How we're planning and deploying our new Atlassian instance
- How a move to Cloud serves our business now and in the future
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