Decoding the Dynamics of Right and Wrong Fit in the Workplace

12/21/23 • 40 min

We're thrilled to be joined by André Martin, PhD, organizational psychologist, and Chief Talent Officer with an impressive track record at consumer giants like Target, Nike, Google, Mars Incorporated, and Disney.
In our conversation, André uncovers the startling $7.8 trillion in lost workplace productivity and explains why he believes we need a new vision for a 'great place to work' that focuses on fit over traditional cultural norms. He shares the importance of self-reflection and how to recognize different career paths based on Company, Craft, and Cause.
Why You Can't Miss This:
There's something in here for job seekers & career builders, leaders looking to hire and build a team, and those tasked to develop corporate culture relating to talent acquisition and development.

01:14 Introduction and Focus of Work
02:10 Understanding Disengagement in the Workplace
03:43 Exploring the Concept of 'Fit' in the Workplace
06:28 The Importance of Self-Reflection in Job Seeking
11:17 Overcoming Confirmation Bias in Job Seeking
18:27 Understanding Different Career Paths: Company, Craft, Cause
21:31 The Impact of Company Transformation on Employee Fit
22:29 Re-evaluating Recruitment and Onboarding
23:09 The Cost of Mismatched Expectations
23:57 Redefining Job Descriptions
25:43 The Impact of Job Hopping
26:02 Companies Doing it Right
27:04 The Need for Re-recruiting
27:32 The Role of Leaders in Employee Engagement
29:00 The Future of Career Paths
29:38 The Cost of Job Hopping Revisited
30:45 Rethinking Job Search and Recruitment
35:18 Advice for Job Seekers
38:12 Where to Find More Resources

Two examples of more realistic job previews:

Careers at NOBL
37 Signals

Episode Resources

To learn more about André and his work:

Monday Matters newsletter
www.wrongfitrightfit.com
The Book: Wrong Fit, Right Fit: Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever
"Company, Craft, or Cause Excursion" From the book. Here is the link
Dialogue Article (Duke Corporate Education Publication) titled "Right Fit, Wrong Fit". Here is the link

To learn more about this podcat, visit:
Labs.newrulesforwork.com

Two examples of more realistic job previews:

Careers at NOBL
37 Signals

Episode Resources

To learn more about André and his work:

Monday Matters newsletter
www.wrongfitrightfit.com
The Book: Wrong Fit, Right Fit: Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever
"Company, Craft, or Cause Excursion" From the book. Here is the link
Dialogue Article (Duke Corporate Education Publication) titled "Right Fit, Wrong Fit". Here is the link

To learn more about this podcat, visit:
Labs.newrulesforwork.com

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For Flux mindset resources: www.fluxmindset.com

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Transcript

André00:00:00.000

So use that time really wisely as opposed to just, we often put layup questions in there.

André00:00:05.950

We're trying to be respectful, but that's your chance to be an investigative journalist. It's the biggest decision we make, right? we will spend 13.5 years at work our adult lives from age 18 to 64, 13 0.5, full years, every day, every hour, every second. It's second only to sleep.

André