
Episode 2.27: Plug the Hole
11/01/20 • 35 min
As Election Day approaches, Amy and Don talk about efforts to put social workers in the local police department, and the problems inherent in that approach. Don shares the second half of a story he started in a previous episode about being harassed by local law enforcement. Plus, a little more Lovecraft Country and a plug to watch Schitt's Creek.
If you missed the first half of Don's story, listen to Episode 2.23 ("Love Louder").
By the time the next episode comes out, the country will have finished casting their votes to shape the course of the nation for the next four years. #Vote, if you haven't already. Be respectful, and be safe.
Additional resources:
- "How Zello Became A Recruitment & Organizing Tool For The Far Right" (WNYC Studios, On the Media, October 16, 2020)
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/how-zello-became-recruitment-organizing-app-far-right - "A friend in NE Iowa works as a child care provider ..." (Twitter, by Sarah Ziegenhorn, October 13, 2020)
https://twitter.com/sarah_ziggy/status/1316045446553321472 - "Activists want to defund police departments. What could that look like in Bloomington?" (Indiana Daily Student, by Vivek Rao and Kaitlyn Radde, October 8, 2020)
https://www.idsnews.com/article/2020/10/activists-want-to-defund-police-departments-what-could-that-look-like-in-bloomington-black-lives-matter - "Letter to Council Members" (Defund12)
https://defund12.org/bloomington - "Bloomington To Create Two New Racial Equality Task Forces" (Indiana Public Media, by Ethan Burks, October 21, 2020)
https://indianapublicmedia.org/news/bloomington-creates-two-new-racial-equality-task-forces.php - "City Proposes A New Commission On Public Safety" (Indiana Public Media, by Ethan Burks, October 29, 2020)
https://indianapublicmedia.org/news/city-proposes-a-new-commission-on-public-safety.php - "Episode 2.23: Love Louder" (My Racist Friend, September 13, 2020)
https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eg3hd-eb5edb - "Why the hope and optimism of Schitt's Creek matters" (Medium, aristhought, December 30, 2019)
https://medium.com/@aristhought/why-the-hope-and-optimism-of-schitts-creek-matters-18fbbe3acae4 - "5-hour Empathy" (SNL, October 17, 2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP0H0j4pCOg
Buy "Your Racist Friend" by They Might Be Giants on iTunes
As Election Day approaches, Amy and Don talk about efforts to put social workers in the local police department, and the problems inherent in that approach. Don shares the second half of a story he started in a previous episode about being harassed by local law enforcement. Plus, a little more Lovecraft Country and a plug to watch Schitt's Creek.
If you missed the first half of Don's story, listen to Episode 2.23 ("Love Louder").
By the time the next episode comes out, the country will have finished casting their votes to shape the course of the nation for the next four years. #Vote, if you haven't already. Be respectful, and be safe.
Additional resources:
- "How Zello Became A Recruitment & Organizing Tool For The Far Right" (WNYC Studios, On the Media, October 16, 2020)
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/how-zello-became-recruitment-organizing-app-far-right - "A friend in NE Iowa works as a child care provider ..." (Twitter, by Sarah Ziegenhorn, October 13, 2020)
https://twitter.com/sarah_ziggy/status/1316045446553321472 - "Activists want to defund police departments. What could that look like in Bloomington?" (Indiana Daily Student, by Vivek Rao and Kaitlyn Radde, October 8, 2020)
https://www.idsnews.com/article/2020/10/activists-want-to-defund-police-departments-what-could-that-look-like-in-bloomington-black-lives-matter - "Letter to Council Members" (Defund12)
https://defund12.org/bloomington - "Bloomington To Create Two New Racial Equality Task Forces" (Indiana Public Media, by Ethan Burks, October 21, 2020)
https://indianapublicmedia.org/news/bloomington-creates-two-new-racial-equality-task-forces.php - "City Proposes A New Commission On Public Safety" (Indiana Public Media, by Ethan Burks, October 29, 2020)
https://indianapublicmedia.org/news/city-proposes-a-new-commission-on-public-safety.php - "Episode 2.23: Love Louder" (My Racist Friend, September 13, 2020)
https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-eg3hd-eb5edb - "Why the hope and optimism of Schitt's Creek matters" (Medium, aristhought, December 30, 2019)
https://medium.com/@aristhought/why-the-hope-and-optimism-of-schitts-creek-matters-18fbbe3acae4 - "5-hour Empathy" (SNL, October 17, 2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP0H0j4pCOg
Buy "Your Racist Friend" by They Might Be Giants on iTunes
Previous Episode

Episode 2.26: Sharing the Messy Parts of Relationships
Don and Amy participated in a virtual session at the Flyover Podcast Festival, hosted online by Dimension Mill on October 8-9, 2020. In their session—"Sharing the Messy Parts of Relationships"—they talked about how they started this podcast, the impact it has had, and what they hope to accomplish by continuing to share their conversations.
Thanks to Rachel Kucera, Gretchen Knapp, and everyone at Dimension Mill (including Sweetwater, for sponsoring the event).
Additional resources:
- "Letter alleges white supremacists sell at farmers' market" (Indiana Daily Student, by Ellen Hine, June 11, 2019)
https://www.idsnews.com/article/2019/06/letter-alleges-white-supremacists-sell-at-farmers-market - "Bloomington Community Farmers' Market releases apology after controversial statement" (Indiana Daily Student, by Lauren McLaughlin, June 12, 2020)
https://www.idsnews.com/article/2020/06/bloomington-community-farmers-market-releases-apology-after-controversial-statement - "Digging Into Solutions for Bloomington Farmers Market" (WBIW, August 13, 2019)
http://www.wbiw.com/2019/08/13/digging-into-solutions-for-the-market/ - Proud Boys (Southern Poverty Law Center)
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys - Dimension Mill
https://dimensionmill.org/
Buy "Your Racist Friend" by They Might Be Giants on iTunes
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Episode 2.28: Yet Another Boss Level
Amy and Don share their "After-election Word Barf" to reflect on a projected victory for Joe Biden and end to the Donald Trump administration. While recognizing lots of work and difficult times remain, the friends discuss the challenges of talking to people mired in fear and end with a list of three good things that lift their spirits.
Additional resources:
- "U.S. Presidential Election Results 2020: Biden Wins" (NBC News)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/president-results - "Laugh? We nearly all died - Why my US failed state Twitter thread went viral" (The Guardian, by Patrick Gathara, November 15, 2020)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/15/patrick-gathara-donald-trump-us-election-joe-biden-twitter-thread - "Police groups break with Biden" (Politico, by Marc Caputo and Natasha Korecki, June 4, 2020)
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/04/police-groups-joe-biden-300222 - "Transforming Community Through Disruptive Empathy" (Whole Person, by Maureen Walker, June 9, 2016)
https://wholeperson.com/blog/transforming-community-through-disruptive-empathy - "Give Us Life" (Spotify playlist, compiled by Kevin Makice for pandemic 2020)
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6oTK358qK5GPsWVpmRvXAW?si=KtFLxKuvRSmpLMjL3up1eQ
Buy "Your Racist Friend" by They Might Be Giants on iTunes
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