
Training Day Vs. Cop Land ( Ep. 0029)
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06/30/22 • 54 min
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Crooked-cop films are the ultimate twist on the cops and robbers genre. Denzel Washington put on one of the most memorable performances of his career while Sylvester Stallone transformed from his usual musclebound action hero to an overweight cop steeped in naivety. The protagonists are tasked with traversing the moral complexity of taking down their corrupt counterparts who don’t operate with a rulebook. Enjoy your training day with Kyle, Drew, and Phil. Click here to become an executive producer on Movie Wars by supporting us on Patreon! A measly $7 gets you access to Kyle’s new 15-minute show “Filmosophy”, interviews with legendary filmmakers, Host Q and A, and bonus content.
FIlm Summaries
Training Day
Police drama about a veteran officer who escorts a rookie on his first day with the LAPD's tough inner-city narcotics unit. "Training Day" is a blistering action drama that asks the audience to decide what is necessary, what is heroic and what crosses the line in the harrowing gray zone of fighting urban crime. Does law-abiding law enforcement come at the expense of justice and public safety? If so, do we demand safe streets at any cost?
- Rating:
- R (Drug Content|Brief Nudity|Pervasive Language|Strong Brutal Violence)
- Genre:
- Crime, Mystery & Thriller, Drama
- Original Language:
- English
- Director:
- Antoine Fuqua
- Producer:
- Jeffrey Silver, Bobby Newmyer
- Writer:
- David Ayer
- Release Date (Theaters):
- Oct 5, 2001 Wide
- Release Date (Streaming):
- Mar 19, 2002
- Box Office (Gross USA):
- $76.3M
- (courtesy of Rotten Tomatoes https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/training_day)
Cop Land
When hotheaded Superboy (Michael Rapaport) accidentally gets involved in an ugly racially-motivated incident, his uncle Ray Donlan (Harvey Keitel), a corrupt New York City cop, attempts to sweep it under the rug by helping fake his nephew's death. The bungled cover-up leads to investigations by idealistic Internal Affairs officer Moe Tilden (Robert De Niro) and Freddy Heflin (Sylvester Stallone), sheriff of the suburban New Jersey town where Donlan and his fellow crooked policemen live.
- Rating:
- R (Strong Language|Brief Nudity|Violence)
- Genre:
- Crime, Mystery & Thriller, Drama
- Original Language:
- English
- Director:
- James Mangold
- Producer:
- Cary Woods, Ezra Swerdlow, Cathy Konrad
- Writer:
- James Mangold
- Release Date (Theaters):
- Aug 15, 1997 Original
- Release Date (Streaming):
- Jul 2, 2002
- Box Office (Gross USA):
- $44.9M
- Runtime:
- 1h 45m
(info courtesy of Rotten Tomatoes https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cop_land)
Crooked-cop films are the ultimate twist on the cops and robbers genre. Denzel Washington put on one of the most memorable performances of his career while Sylvester Stallone transformed from his usual musclebound action hero to an overweight cop steeped in naivety. The protagonists are tasked with traversing the moral complexity of taking down their corrupt counterparts who don’t operate with a rulebook. Enjoy your training day with Kyle, Drew, and Phil. Click here to become an executive producer on Movie Wars by supporting us on Patreon! A measly $7 gets you access to Kyle’s new 15-minute show “Filmosophy”, interviews with legendary filmmakers, Host Q and A, and bonus content.
FIlm Summaries
Training Day
Police drama about a veteran officer who escorts a rookie on his first day with the LAPD's tough inner-city narcotics unit. "Training Day" is a blistering action drama that asks the audience to decide what is necessary, what is heroic and what crosses the line in the harrowing gray zone of fighting urban crime. Does law-abiding law enforcement come at the expense of justice and public safety? If so, do we demand safe streets at any cost?
- Rating:
- R (Drug Content|Brief Nudity|Pervasive Language|Strong Brutal Violence)
- Genre:
- Crime, Mystery & Thriller, Drama
- Original Language:
- English
- Director:
- Antoine Fuqua
- Producer:
- Jeffrey Silver, Bobby Newmyer
- Writer:
- David Ayer
- Release Date (Theaters):
- Oct 5, 2001 Wide
- Release Date (Streaming):
- Mar 19, 2002
- Box Office (Gross USA):
- $76.3M
- (courtesy of Rotten Tomatoes https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/training_day)
Cop Land
When hotheaded Superboy (Michael Rapaport) accidentally gets involved in an ugly racially-motivated incident, his uncle Ray Donlan (Harvey Keitel), a corrupt New York City cop, attempts to sweep it under the rug by helping fake his nephew's death. The bungled cover-up leads to investigations by idealistic Internal Affairs officer Moe Tilden (Robert De Niro) and Freddy Heflin (Sylvester Stallone), sheriff of the suburban New Jersey town where Donlan and his fellow crooked policemen live.
- Rating:
- R (Strong Language|Brief Nudity|Violence)
- Genre:
- Crime, Mystery & Thriller, Drama
- Original Language:
- English
- Director:
- James Mangold
- Producer:
- Cary Woods, Ezra Swerdlow, Cathy Konrad
- Writer:
- James Mangold
- Release Date (Theaters):
- Aug 15, 1997 Original
- Release Date (Streaming):
- Jul 2, 2002
- Box Office (Gross USA):
- $44.9M
- Runtime:
- 1h 45m
(info courtesy of Rotten Tomatoes https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cop_land)
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Film Summaries (info courtesy of Rotten Tomatoes)
Casino
In early-1970s Las Vegas, low-level mobster Sam "Ace" Rothstein (Robert De Niro) gets tapped by his bosses to head the Tangiers Casino. At first, he's a great success in the job, but over the years, problems with his loose-cannon enforcer Nicky Santoro (Joe Pesci), his ex-hustler wife Ginger (Sharon Stone), her con-artist ex Lester Diamond (James Woods) and a handful of corrupt politicians put Sam in ever-increasing danger. Martin Scorsese directs this adaptation of Nicholas Pileggi's book.
- Rating:
- R
- Genre:
- Crime, Drama
- Original Language:
- English
- Director:
- Martin Scorsese
- Producer:
- Barbara De Fina
- Writer:
- Nicholas Pileggi, Martin Scorsese
- Release Date (Theaters):
- Nov 22, 1995 Original
- Release Date (Streaming):
- Feb 26, 2002
- Box Office (Gross USA):
- $42.4M
- Runtime:
- 2h 57m
- Distributor:
- MCA/Universal Pictures [us]
Rounders
Mike McDermott (Matt Damon) loses his money in a poker game against Russian gangster Teddy "KGB" (John Malkovich). Under pressure from his girlfriend, Jo (Gretchen Mol), he promises to quit gambling. This lasts until his friend, Lester "Worm" Murphy (Edward Norton), gets out of prison and needs to pay off an old debt. The pair come close to earning the money back but are caught cheating. Then Mike finds out the debt is owed to Teddy and makes one last-ditch effort to beat the Russian.
- Rating:
- R
- Genre:
- Drama
- Original Language:
- English
- Director:
- John Dahl
- Producer:
- Joel Stillerman, Ted Demme
- Writer:
- David Levien, Brian Koppelman
- Release Date (Theaters):
- Sep 8, 1998 Original
- Release Date (Streaming):
- Mar 10, 2009
- Box Office (Gross USA):
- $22.9M
- Runtime:
- 2h 0m
- Distributor:
- Miramax Films
Movie Wars - Training Day Vs. Cop Land ( Ep. 0029)
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Crooked-cop films are the ultimate twist on the cops and robbers genre. Denzel Washington put on one of the most memorable performances of his career while Sylvester Stallone transformed from his usual musclebound action hero to an overweight cop steeped in naivety. The protagonists are tasked with traversing the moral complexity of taking down their corrupt counterparts who donât operate with a rulebook. Enjoy your training day with Kyle, Drew, and Phil. Click here to become an executive
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