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More or Less - #36: RIP Apple Car, Google's AI Reality Problem, Long Live Consumer Tech

#36: RIP Apple Car, Google's AI Reality Problem, Long Live Consumer Tech

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03/02/24 • 62 min

More or Less

Fresh from an investor conference in Los Angeles, the gang discusses the week's headlines and the behind-the-scenes scuttle from one of tech's elite gatherings.

Articles Discussed

How Apple’s Eight-Year Quest to Build a Self-Driving Car Hit Roadblocks

Consumer Startups Are a Better Bet Than Enterprise Startups

Show Notes

00:00:11 - Intro
00:01:33 - More or Less Business Models
00:03:15 - Upfront Summit Insights
00:04:21 - Event Networking Dynamics
00:04:56 - South by Southwest Comparisons
00:05:54 - Hollywood's Shift to AI for Scenes
00:07:41 - Upfront Summit vs. More or Less Podcast
00:08:02 - Football Docuseries Recommendations
00:09:29 - Vision Pro's Use Cases
00:10:15 - Apple's Electric Vehicle Project Shutdown
00:11:58 - Apple's Growth and Future Direction
00:13:32 - Big Companies and Market Mapping
00:15:16 - Apple's Approach to New Markets
00:17:29 - Apple's Retreat from the Car Business
00:18:08 - Apple's Focus on Personal Technology
00:19:23 - Self-Driving Cars and AI Challenges
00:20:03 - Apple's AI and Chip Future
00:21:29 - Google's PR Crisis with Gemini Chatbot
00:22:12 - The Liability of LLMs and AI Models
00:23:21 - Google's Response to Gemini's Issues
00:24:45 - Google's RoboCity and AI Testing
00:25:22 - Google's Next Moves After Gemini Backlash
00:26:50 - Apple's Next Trillion-Dollar Market
00:27:13 - Apple's Potential AI and Software Focus
00:28:08 - Clarifying Apple's Mission with Personal Tech
00:29:02 - Apple's Strategy and Spatial Computing
00:30:07 - Tech Industry's Business Cuts
00:31:01 - Meta's Oculus and Business Decisions
00:33:47 - Pixel Fold's Popularity
00:34:57 - Pop Culture Corner and Taylor Swift's Influence on Camera Sales
00:37:25 - Suits Spinoff in Los Angeles
00:38:44 - Kate Middleton's Hospital Stay?
00:40:07 - Petty Crime Podcast Idea
00:41:58 - Consumer vs. Enterprise Tech Returns Debate
00:43:10 - AI's Impact on Consumer Tech Revolution
00:44:39 - Wrap Up

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Fresh from an investor conference in Los Angeles, the gang discusses the week's headlines and the behind-the-scenes scuttle from one of tech's elite gatherings.

Articles Discussed

How Apple’s Eight-Year Quest to Build a Self-Driving Car Hit Roadblocks

Consumer Startups Are a Better Bet Than Enterprise Startups

Show Notes

00:00:11 - Intro
00:01:33 - More or Less Business Models
00:03:15 - Upfront Summit Insights
00:04:21 - Event Networking Dynamics
00:04:56 - South by Southwest Comparisons
00:05:54 - Hollywood's Shift to AI for Scenes
00:07:41 - Upfront Summit vs. More or Less Podcast
00:08:02 - Football Docuseries Recommendations
00:09:29 - Vision Pro's Use Cases
00:10:15 - Apple's Electric Vehicle Project Shutdown
00:11:58 - Apple's Growth and Future Direction
00:13:32 - Big Companies and Market Mapping
00:15:16 - Apple's Approach to New Markets
00:17:29 - Apple's Retreat from the Car Business
00:18:08 - Apple's Focus on Personal Technology
00:19:23 - Self-Driving Cars and AI Challenges
00:20:03 - Apple's AI and Chip Future
00:21:29 - Google's PR Crisis with Gemini Chatbot
00:22:12 - The Liability of LLMs and AI Models
00:23:21 - Google's Response to Gemini's Issues
00:24:45 - Google's RoboCity and AI Testing
00:25:22 - Google's Next Moves After Gemini Backlash
00:26:50 - Apple's Next Trillion-Dollar Market
00:27:13 - Apple's Potential AI and Software Focus
00:28:08 - Clarifying Apple's Mission with Personal Tech
00:29:02 - Apple's Strategy and Spatial Computing
00:30:07 - Tech Industry's Business Cuts
00:31:01 - Meta's Oculus and Business Decisions
00:33:47 - Pixel Fold's Popularity
00:34:57 - Pop Culture Corner and Taylor Swift's Influence on Camera Sales
00:37:25 - Suits Spinoff in Los Angeles
00:38:44 - Kate Middleton's Hospital Stay?
00:40:07 - Petty Crime Podcast Idea
00:41:58 - Consumer vs. Enterprise Tech Returns Debate
00:43:10 - AI's Impact on Consumer Tech Revolution
00:44:39 - Wrap Up

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Takeaways

  • The ban on TikTok and the regulation of Chinese apps are ongoing topics of discussion.
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  • Google has already taken steps to limit Chinese app access.
  • The US-China relationship and co-dependence pose challenges in addressing national security concerns.
  • More sophisticated and targeted regulatory approaches are needed to effectively address these issues. The ban on TikTok raises concerns about national security risks and the influence of Chinese-owned apps on American youth.
  • ByteDance's revenue growth highlights the company's success and the potential impact of a TikTok ban on its business.
  • Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI raises questions about the organization's mission and the transition from nonprofit to for-profit.
  • The influence of Elon Musk on the tech news cycle and the perception of his companies is a topic of discussion.
  • The future of electric vehicles faces challenges such as range anxiety and competition from other countries. Charging electric vehicles can be a challenge for some individuals, leading to discussions about alternative solutions.
  • Roving superchargers are a potential solution to address range anxiety and charging issues for EVs.
  • The AI venture capital race is compared to the ride-hailing wars, with concerns about market concentration and smaller investors being boxed out.
  • PCC: Who was the highest paid actor in 2023?

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Ban on TikTok

03:15 Regulating Chinese Apps

08:54 Apple's Role in Controlling Apps

16:21 Proposed Bill and Apple's Dilemma

18:18 Sophistication of Regulatory Efforts

19:07 The TikTok Ban

21:13 ByteDance's Revenue Growth

22:25 National Security Risks

26:19 Elon Musk's Lawsuit Against OpenAI

28:01 The Influence of Elon Musk

37:33 The Future of EVs

39:44 Charging Electric Vehicles

40:12 Alternative Solutions

40:46 The Future of EVs

41:20 Roving Superchargers

42:07 AI Venture Capital Race

43:13 Pop Culture: Highest-Paid Actors

45:40 Market Concentration in AI

52:31 Upcoming Events: Oscars and Tennis Tournament

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