The Future of Crypto, Social Platforms, and Descending the Tech Ladder with Mike Rainbow
04/18/24 • 54 min
In this episode, Mike Rainbow (co-founder of Rainbow wallet) joins Erik, Dan, and Antonio as they dive into crypto's future. The conversation was prompted by the thesis that innovative social protocols like Farcaster are co-evolving with crypto wallets as onramps or a portal to web3. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen — NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks.
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🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA, and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.
💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
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Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns
Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,
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LINKS:
Check out Rainbow: https://rainbow.me/en/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Exploring Crypto's Impact on Financial Intermediaries
(01:36) Introducing Mike Rainbow: A Unique Crypto Personality
(02:09) Massachusetts Memories and Dunkin' Donuts Dominance
(02:46) East Coast Social Dynamics and Crypto Culture
(04:46) The Evolution of Wallets and Social Networks in Crypto
(06:26) Debating the Convergence of Crypto Products
(15:00) Sponsors: Netsuite | Harmonic
(17:18) Building Integrated Crypto Platforms Continued
(22:15) The Future of Messaging and Composability in Crypto
(27:30) Exploring Group Chat Dynamics and App Adoption
(28:13) The Evolution of Transaction Frames in Crypto
(30:37) Sponsor: Squad
(32:02) Innovations and Challenges in Transaction Frames
(36:29) Deep Dive into Frame Technology and Developer Challenges
(41:39) The Future of Frames and Web3 Standards
(46:51) Demographic Shifts and Future Directions for Farcaster
(53:49) Wrap
In this episode, Mike Rainbow (co-founder of Rainbow wallet) joins Erik, Dan, and Antonio as they dive into crypto's future. The conversation was prompted by the thesis that innovative social protocols like Farcaster are co-evolving with crypto wallets as onramps or a portal to web3. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen — NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks.
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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | NETSUITE| HARMONIC | SQUAD
Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months
📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks.
🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA, and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.
💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
–
Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns
Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,
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FOLLOW ON X:
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@mikedemarais (Mike)
@dwr (Dan)
@antoniogm (Antonio)
@moz_podcast (Moment of Zen)
@TurpentineMedia
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LINKS:
Check out Rainbow: https://rainbow.me/en/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Exploring Crypto's Impact on Financial Intermediaries
(01:36) Introducing Mike Rainbow: A Unique Crypto Personality
(02:09) Massachusetts Memories and Dunkin' Donuts Dominance
(02:46) East Coast Social Dynamics and Crypto Culture
(04:46) The Evolution of Wallets and Social Networks in Crypto
(06:26) Debating the Convergence of Crypto Products
(15:00) Sponsors: Netsuite | Harmonic
(17:18) Building Integrated Crypto Platforms Continued
(22:15) The Future of Messaging and Composability in Crypto
(27:30) Exploring Group Chat Dynamics and App Adoption
(28:13) The Evolution of Transaction Frames in Crypto
(30:37) Sponsor: Squad
(32:02) Innovations and Challenges in Transaction Frames
(36:29) Deep Dive into Frame Technology and Developer Challenges
(41:39) The Future of Frames and Web3 Standards
(46:51) Demographic Shifts and Future Directions for Farcaster
(53:49) Wrap
Previous Episode
Bryan Johnson on AI, Religion, and God
Bryan Johnson joins Antonio Garcia Martinez and Erik Torenberg on Moment of Zen to discuss the deeper spiritual beliefs behind the "Don't Die" movement in the face of AI and the inadequacy of human clock speed. They cover religions as death cults, long-termism vs engineering your own longevity, and Bryan's recent interview on Tucker Carlson.
If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen - now through April 15th NetSuite is offering a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program.
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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | NETSUITE | HARMONIC | SQUAD
Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - now through April 15th NetSuite is offering a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program.
🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.
💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
–
Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns
Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,
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FOLLOW ON X:
@bryan_johnson (Bryan)
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LINKS:
Bryan Johnson on Tucker Carlson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr4E0jEjQMM
Bryan Johnson's Blueprint/ Don't Die: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/DONT-DIE-by-Zero
Book recommendation: The Postmortal by Drew Magary https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10673576-the-postmortal
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Opening Banter
(00:19) Bryan's Tucker Carlson Interview
(01:19) Long-Termism
(02:24) The 25th Century Perspective
(07:56) Navigating the Future with AI and the Network State
(09:40) Sponsor: Netsuite | Squad
(12:11) The 'Don't Die' Philosophy and Its Implications
(15:47) The Blade Runner Fallacy
(18:39) Using Algorithms to Optimize Your Personal Life
(22:39) Redefining Civilization in the Age of AI
(25:50) On Mortality and Future Civilization
(32:22) Exploring Existential Crises and the Role of Faith
(33:45) The Identity Crisis in Modern Society
(36:08) Technology and Tradition: A Surprising Harmony
(38:04) Future of AI and Its Impact on Society
(38:56) Navigating the Unpredictable Future
(45:32) The Philosophical Debate on Existence and Survival
(1:02:14) Reimagining Human Experience in a Post-Death World
(1:04:28) Wrap
Next Episode
Should We Accelerate or Decelerate Tech Progress?
Today’s episode is a debate from Bankless on the opposing viewpoints of Effective Accelerationism (E/ACC) and Effective Altruism (EA). Hosted by Ryan Sean Adams and David Hoffman and featuring Haseeb Qureshi and our own Erik Torenberg, the podcast discusses whether AI progression should be cautiously regulated or aggressively pursued with minimal oversight.
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NETSUITE
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SQUAD
💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
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Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns
Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0epyYBAxLeF0PsNagdDJAJ
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/company-breakdowns/id1743119197
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Preview
(00:43) Navigating the Tech Acceleration vs. Deceleration Debate
(06:31) Exploring Effective Altruism (EA) and Its Impact on AI and Tech
(08:53) The EA Perspective: Balancing AI Risk with Technological Progress
(17:52) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv
(20:15) Effective altruists debate AI's future impact
(30:04) Navigating the Culture War: Accelerationism vs. Decelerationism
(33:48) Sponsor: Squad
(35:50) EA's Influence and the Acceleration Debate
(37:28 )AI Regulation and the Influence of Congress
(38:12) Crypto Tribes and the Impact of Social Media
(39:03) The Reality of Crypto Twitter vs. Actual Influence
(39:51) Exploring Silicon Valley's Perspective on AI and Regulation
(41:44) The OpenAI Coup: Unpacking the Real Story
(44:03) AI Safety vs Self-Regulation
(46:13) Silicon Valley in AI Development and Regulation
(59:47) The Complexities of AI Ethics and the Call for More Debate
(1:09:15) Exploring the EA Worldview and Its Misconceptions
(1:09:44) A Rational Approach to AI and Existential Risks
(1:12:04) Branding and Perception Challenges of EA
(1:12:42) EA's Beta Energy vs. Alpha Aggression
(1:13:15) Balanced Tech Ecosystem: EA and E/ACC Synergy
(1:18:26) Navigating the Political Landscape of AI and Technology
(1:31:31) The Importance of a Multi-faceted Approach to AI Regulation
(1:40:06) AI Safety, Ethics, and Accelerationism
(1:42:22) Wrap
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