
Nuclear energy’s role in decarbonizing the economy
10/17/23 • 24 min
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Despite a long period of relative stagnation, nuclear power has remained the quiet backbone of the United States’ clean energy supply for decades. Now, the Joe Biden administration wants more from the sector as the country hustles to meet ambitious emissions goals.
Jigar Shah, the director of the Energy Department’s Loan Programs Office, said nuclear energy will only become more critical as demand for electricity surges over the next 20 years.
On the show today, Shah makes us smart about how much the country relies on nuclear energy. We’ll also discuss lessons learned from building the first nuclear reactor from scratch in decades, and how the industry plans to win over Americans who are concerned about safety and toxic waste.
Then, we’ll get into the high stakes of today’s vote for speaker of the House of Representatives. And Elon Musk’s satellite internet company Starlink is part of geopolitical conversation yet again, this time in Israel.
Later, we’ll hear from a teacher about the expectations that educators pay for classroom supplies themselves. And this week’s answer to the Make Me Smart question comes from Kai Bird, co-author of “American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer.”
Here’s everything we talked about today:
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- “Nuclear power is having a resurgence” from Axios
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- “Utilities Want to Convert Coal Plants to Nuclear; Skeptics Abound” from The Wall Street Journal
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- “New Georgia reactor shows benefits and costs of nuclear power” from Marketplace
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- “Advanced Nuclear – Pathways to Commercial Liftoff” from The Department of Energy
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- “NRC Certifies First U.S. Small Modular Reactor Design” from The Department of Energy
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- “Playbook: Jim Jordan’s day of reckoning” from Politico
We want to hear your answer to the Make Me Smart question. You can reach us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART.
Despite a long period of relative stagnation, nuclear power has remained the quiet backbone of the United States’ clean energy supply for decades. Now, the Joe Biden administration wants more from the sector as the country hustles to meet ambitious emissions goals.
Jigar Shah, the director of the Energy Department’s Loan Programs Office, said nuclear energy will only become more critical as demand for electricity surges over the next 20 years.
On the show today, Shah makes us smart about how much the country relies on nuclear energy. We’ll also discuss lessons learned from building the first nuclear reactor from scratch in decades, and how the industry plans to win over Americans who are concerned about safety and toxic waste.
Then, we’ll get into the high stakes of today’s vote for speaker of the House of Representatives. And Elon Musk’s satellite internet company Starlink is part of geopolitical conversation yet again, this time in Israel.
Later, we’ll hear from a teacher about the expectations that educators pay for classroom supplies themselves. And this week’s answer to the Make Me Smart question comes from Kai Bird, co-author of “American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer.”
Here’s everything we talked about today:
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- “Nuclear power is having a resurgence” from Axios
-
- “Utilities Want to Convert Coal Plants to Nuclear; Skeptics Abound” from The Wall Street Journal
-
- “New Georgia reactor shows benefits and costs of nuclear power” from Marketplace
-
- “Advanced Nuclear – Pathways to Commercial Liftoff” from The Department of Energy
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- “NRC Certifies First U.S. Small Modular Reactor Design” from The Department of Energy
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- “Playbook: Jim Jordan’s day of reckoning” from Politico
We want to hear your answer to the Make Me Smart question. You can reach us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART.
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