
Jordan Peterson Part 1: The Carnivore Diet
03/01/22 • 68 min
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Oops all meat: How a '50s bodybuilder, a Grateful Dead roadie and an unreadable professor accidentally launched one of America's wildest fad diets.
Here's Mike's "Cancel Culture" video!
Note: In our discussion of Jordan Peterson’s political correctness lecture, I made a sarcastic comment about looking “slim in this dress.” After the episode came out, we started hearing from listeners that my comment reminded them of fatphobic jokes they’d heard in the past and didn’t feel consistent with the message of the show. They were right! It was a bad joke and we've removed it from the episode. We'll be discussing this and our approach to handling feedback and editing past episodes in more detail soon. Thanks to everyone who wrote in to let us know! — Mike
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- Joe Rogan Experience #1070 - Jordan Peterson
- Atlantic article on the all-beef diet
- Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the Patriarchy
- Is Jordan Peterson the stupid man's smart person?
- How dangerous is Jordan B. Peterson?
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- Inside the World of the 'Bitcoin Carnivores'
- Human Ancestors Were Nearly All Vegetarians
- My carnivore diet: what I learned from eating only beef, salt and water
- The Inuit Paradox
- Why Right Wingers Are Going Crazy About Meat
- Owsley “The Bear” Stanley’s Active Low-Carber Forum Posts
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
Oops all meat: How a '50s bodybuilder, a Grateful Dead roadie and an unreadable professor accidentally launched one of America's wildest fad diets.
Here's Mike's "Cancel Culture" video!
Note: In our discussion of Jordan Peterson’s political correctness lecture, I made a sarcastic comment about looking “slim in this dress.” After the episode came out, we started hearing from listeners that my comment reminded them of fatphobic jokes they’d heard in the past and didn’t feel consistent with the message of the show. They were right! It was a bad joke and we've removed it from the episode. We'll be discussing this and our approach to handling feedback and editing past episodes in more detail soon. Thanks to everyone who wrote in to let us know! — Mike
Support us:
Links!
- Joe Rogan Experience #1070 - Jordan Peterson
- Atlantic article on the all-beef diet
- Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the Patriarchy
- Is Jordan Peterson the stupid man's smart person?
- How dangerous is Jordan B. Peterson?
- The Intellectual We Deserve
- Jordan Peterson & Fascist Mysticism
- The Pronoun Warrior
- Jordan Peterson’s Gospel of Masculinity
- The Bizarre Fad Diet Taking the Far Right by Storm
- Inside the World of the 'Bitcoin Carnivores'
- Human Ancestors Were Nearly All Vegetarians
- My carnivore diet: what I learned from eating only beef, salt and water
- The Inuit Paradox
- Why Right Wingers Are Going Crazy About Meat
- Owsley “The Bear” Stanley’s Active Low-Carber Forum Posts
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
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Maintenance Phase - Jordan Peterson Part 1: The Carnivore Diet
Transcript Summary
In this episode titled "Jordan Peterson Part 1: The Carnivore Diet," Michael and Aubrey delve into the power of narratives in shaping understanding, focusing on the controversial figure, Jordan Peterson. They explore how narratives often hold more influence than facts, examining Peterson's conservative views on gender identity, climate change denial, and use of archetypal stories. The conversation then shifts to discuss Peterson's association with the carnivore diet, exploring the promotion and implications of his results. The hosts debunk the idea of an all-meat diet, discuss its potential negative side effects, and question its narrative appeal. They also analyze the logic behind meat-only diets being optimal for individual health and provide contrasting scientific perspectives. Lastly, they touch on personal experiences with dietary changes and briefly delve into the person behind Peterson's work, raising questions about their controversial aspects and academic writing style.
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Michael: Wanna tagline us in?
Aubrey: Sure.
Michael: This is how I'm gauging how fresh you're coming into this episode. What does she have for a tagline?
Aubrey: Oh, okay.
Michael: What's she working with?
Aubrey: Hi, everybody and welcome to Maintenance Phase, the podcast that is searing off Lady Gaga's meat dress and serving that and only that.
Mic
Jordan Peterson Part 1: The Carnivore Diet Top Questions Answered
Is the carnivore diet healthy?
The carnivore diet is criticized for its lack of variety and potential negative health effects due to the absence of fiber and altered gut bacteria. It can cause digestive issues and long-term health problems.
What are the potential negative health effects of the carnivore diet?
The carnivore diet can lead to digestive issues and long-term health problems due to the lack of fiber and altered gut bacteria. It may also result in nutritional deficiencies.
Why is the carnivore diet criticized?
The carnivore diet is criticized for its lack of variety, potential negative health effects, and the absence of essential nutrients found in plant-based foods.
Is the carnivore diet based on emulating our ancestors' diets?
The discussion in the podcast episode revolves around the myth and fetishization of emulating our ancestors' diets and behaviors. Different human societies have adapted to different diets due to genetic factors.
What is Jordan Peterson's diet?
Jordan Peterson adheres to the carnivore diet, which involves consuming only meat, salt, and drinking water and club soda. He claims it has improved various health issues for him.
How did the carnivore diet gain popularity?
The carnivore diet gained popularity after Jordan Peterson discussed it on the Joe Rogan Podcast. Influencers like Shawn Baker and Paul Saladino also promote the diet.
What are the potential health benefits of the carnivore diet?
Some proponents of the carnivore diet claim benefits such as weight loss, improved mood regulation, and reduced symptoms of certain health conditions. However, these claims are not scientifically supported.
Does the carnivore diet provide all the necessary nutrients?
While the carnivore diet defends the nutrients it provides, a varied diet with plant-based foods is generally considered more beneficial for overall nutrition.
Are plants toxic and bad for you?
The podcast debunks the myth that plants are toxic and bad for you. Anti-nutrients in plants only reduce nutrient absorption at low levels, and cooking eliminates most of these anti-nutrients.
Is the paleo diet supported by scientific evidence?
The paleo diet, which proposes emulating our ancestors' dietary patterns, is considered questionable by the scientist who proposed the meat-eating hypothesis. Even scientists studying early man do not support the paleo diet as a definitive approach.
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