
Episode 115: Thinking Outside the Box so International Children Can Thrive with Expat Valley, Former Co-founder, Matthijs de Rave
09/07/23 • 42 min
There are 40 million global families who move to a new place, leave their neighbors, jobs, schools, and communities behind. They have to start all over again.
This is where international organizations need to step up and recreate that sense of a ‘village’ again so that those international children can thrive.
I’m joined by Former Co-founder at Expat Valley and Ombudsman for International Children co-founder, Matthijs de Rave. Together, we will delve into his inspiring vision for international children and what it means to make a real impact for these children.
Matthijs has been a pioneer in ‘thinking outside the box’ and successfully approaching corporate organizations in the mobility sphere. His abundant mindset has been instrumental during his startup journey, so we explore how it shapes his approach and leads to his remarkable achievements.
In this conversation, we cover key topics like:
6:00– The commonalities between international children
7:47– Support system changes for internationally mobile children & where Expat Valley fits in
17:40– How an abundance mindset can help you overcome challenges & how to cultivate one
25:52– Tools and resources for TCK parents
39:58– The future of Expat Valley
This conversation is packed with real life insights and solutions on how we can understand and think creatively about how to better serve internationally mobile children.
And, this goes without saying, one of the key ways you can help your children is to become an example of what is possible. I encourage you to stop waiting for your perfect life to align, but to carefully craft the life you love– no matter the location. If you need help, head to my website to see how I can support you and your family!
Resources mentioned:
- Learn more about Expat Valley on their website
- Episode 79: How to Help TCK Kids Build Resilience & Navigate their Emotions with Lauren Wells
- Episodes 107: Transitions and Changes of a TCK with author, Michael V. Pollock
- Episode 108: Unresolved Grief and How to Overcome It: Part 1 with TCK Expert, Dr. Ruth Van Reken
- Episode 109: Unresolved Grief and How to Overcome It: Part 2 with TCK Expert, Dr. Ruth Van Reken
There are 40 million global families who move to a new place, leave their neighbors, jobs, schools, and communities behind. They have to start all over again.
This is where international organizations need to step up and recreate that sense of a ‘village’ again so that those international children can thrive.
I’m joined by Former Co-founder at Expat Valley and Ombudsman for International Children co-founder, Matthijs de Rave. Together, we will delve into his inspiring vision for international children and what it means to make a real impact for these children.
Matthijs has been a pioneer in ‘thinking outside the box’ and successfully approaching corporate organizations in the mobility sphere. His abundant mindset has been instrumental during his startup journey, so we explore how it shapes his approach and leads to his remarkable achievements.
In this conversation, we cover key topics like:
6:00– The commonalities between international children
7:47– Support system changes for internationally mobile children & where Expat Valley fits in
17:40– How an abundance mindset can help you overcome challenges & how to cultivate one
25:52– Tools and resources for TCK parents
39:58– The future of Expat Valley
This conversation is packed with real life insights and solutions on how we can understand and think creatively about how to better serve internationally mobile children.
And, this goes without saying, one of the key ways you can help your children is to become an example of what is possible. I encourage you to stop waiting for your perfect life to align, but to carefully craft the life you love– no matter the location. If you need help, head to my website to see how I can support you and your family!
Resources mentioned:
- Learn more about Expat Valley on their website
- Episode 79: How to Help TCK Kids Build Resilience & Navigate their Emotions with Lauren Wells
- Episodes 107: Transitions and Changes of a TCK with author, Michael V. Pollock
- Episode 108: Unresolved Grief and How to Overcome It: Part 1 with TCK Expert, Dr. Ruth Van Reken
- Episode 109: Unresolved Grief and How to Overcome It: Part 2 with TCK Expert, Dr. Ruth Van Reken
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Episode 114: [Rebroadcast Series] Transformation and Growth Through a Career Change with Elizabeth Mina
Often, people undergo changes when they feel dissatisfied with their current circumstances. In such cases, there's a tendency to hastily seek something different in order to find relief.
However, change is often best when we pursue alignment rather than relief. When we already appreciate the life we have and still nurture a desire for growth, for new experiences beyond our current horizons and are aligned with our reasons, this is when magic happens.
Elizabeth Mina, who has made a dramatic career shift after 17 years in a senior position at a government agency, expands on why she decided to shake her beautiful island life in Hawaii all while being a new wife. Spoiler alert: she wanted alignment.
To me, alignment means that we are in agreement with oneself. There is no tension. What we think, feel, and do are harmonious. This is what I help clients do. Create alignment independently of location and circumstances so that they reap the full benefits of their life abroad.
Mina’s story is inspiring, insightful, and full of valuable lessons that we can all apply in our own lives. Below are some key points we unpack together:
- The inspiration behind a drastic life change
- How Mina clarified her vision
- Navigating risks and uncertainty
- Career decision obstacles
- Letting go as a means to succeed
Resources mentioned:
Episode 64: Relaxing & Slowing Down
3 Steps to Clarify What You Truly Want- FREE Challenge
At Girafe coaching I help global nomads make urgent decisions with ease. Be sure to schedule a Decision Accelerator Session here!
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Episode 116: New Ideas to Encourage Smooth Transitions for Parents & Educators with SPAN executive director, Valérie Besanceney
Transition is a vital skill for success in the 21st century, whether or not we live abroad. So, how can schools, educators, & parents better help our children grow up to be more resilient during times of transition?
I know I’m not alone as a parent when I say– we move abroad with the best intentions, but we often focus on the logistical aspects of transitions and neglect the emotional rollercoaster our children have to navigate.
In this episode I have the privilege of speaking with Valérie Besanceney; a TCK, executive director of Safe Passage Across Networks (SPAN), and an author of two childrens books– "B at Home: Emma Moves Again" and "My Moving Booklet”.
Through Valérie's experience at SPAN; an organization at the forefront of groundbreaking work in positive transitions-care, and through being a TCK herself– she opens up about gaps she sees in schools and families when it comes to transitioning. She proposes practical solutions for schools and families to prep and support children during these times.
We'll dive into the fantastic work she does with her organization and explore the skills needed to manage transitions well.
Other key topics discussed:
- How have your personal experiences shaped your work in helping families and schools manage transitions?
- How does unmanaged mobility impact the learning and overall well-being of children?
- (13”) The roller coaster of emotions that’s associated with the different stages of the transition cycle
- (17”) Effecrive tools to help children through transitions
- (19’44) What are some of the gaps and necessary skills you have identified in schools and parenting when it comes to equipping children for transitions?
- (25”) A well managed transition
- (29”) New social research around growing up as globally mobile and how transitions can make such a difference in an AI era.
- Could you tell us more about the transition-care program you've developed at SPAN and the results you have seen through its implementation?
Other key topics discussed:
6:57– Helping families transition easier by use of personal experiences
11:14– The impact of transtions on a childs wellbeing
17:31– The rollercoaster of emotions associated with different transition cycles
21:01– Effective tools to help children through transitions
25:35– Gaps where teachers and parents can better equip children
29:49– A well managed transition
34:33– Astounding new social research about transitions and globally mobile children
38:26– Transition care program purpose & results
Remember, transitions are not simply events to be endured but processes to be embraced. By equipping ourselves and our children with the necessary skills, understanding and embracing rather than resisting the emotional journey, and fostering a supportive environment, we can navigate transitions with resilience and thrive in an ever-changing world.
And, this goes without saying, one of the key ways you can help your children is to first help yourself. I encourage you to stop waiting for your perfect life to align, but to carefully craft the life you love– no matter the location or transition. If you need help, head to my website to see how we can work together!
Resources mentioned:
- Connect with Valérie Besanceney on LinkedIn
- Learn more about SPAN here
- Episode 108: Unresolved Grief and How to Overcome It: Part 1 with TCK Expert, Dr. Ruth Van Reken
- Episode 109: Unresolved Grief and How to Overcome It: Part 2 with TCK Expert, Dr. Ruth Van Reken
- Visible Learning book by John Hattie
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