Ep.64- Love, Abundance and Living an Authentic Life with Ghary Won

04/24/25 • 54 min

Love and Compassion Podcast with Gissele Taraba

Gissele: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the Love and Compassion podcast with Gissele. We believe that love and compassion have the power to heal our lives and our world. Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more amazing content. I’d like to take this opportunity to share with you an exciting project that I’m working on with a team of researchers and worldwide guests.

I’m directing a documentary called Courage to Love the Power of Compassion, and we’ll be sharing stories of individuals who are doing the unthinkable, loving those who are most hurtful. Through this documentary, we’ll be answering the question, whether love does have the power to transform enemies into friends and challenges into opportunities to support our documentary.

Please look for us in the fundraiser at https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/courage-to-love-the-power-of-compassion We’ll be offering lots of perks for your contribution, including associate director credit for our film. So look, look out for that. On today’s podcast, we’ll be talking [00:01:00] about the relationship between Love and Money, and we have a special guest today.

It’s my friend Ghary. Gh ary. David Wong is a spiritual explorer who sheds lights on life’s steps through hospice care, mortality insights, and a bout of homelessness. Departing from a corporate career, he offers a unique perspective on purpose and abundance. In his latest book, abundance Soul, abundant Life, he shares love’s transformative power for a purposeful existence based on personal discoveries.

Please join me in welcoming my friend Ghary. Hi Ghary.

Ghary: Hi, Gissele. I’m so glad to be here.

Gissele: Yes, thank you for being here with us. We’re gonna talk about love and money, and often those two aren’t associated, actually very seldom. And so I’m super excited to talk to you and talk about your [00:02:00] book. But to begin with, can you tell our listeners what got you started on this journey?

Ghary: Boy, you know, interestingly, I thought I was gonna write a book about, strictly about Money, but you actually read the book. It ends up it, you know, it’s a book about love. Mm-hmm. And you know, this, this has been a long time journey for me. I mean, I’ve studied with a lot of different people like Wayne Dyer and Neil Donald Walsh, those kind of people.

You know, I, I started journaling from 1991. Wow. And I’ve been, I’ve been keeping a daily journal and after a certain point in time I had a section in there which I call reflections. And what happened was that these are sort of insights that I’ve had, and over the years I’ve realized that [00:03:00] those, those reflections actually come from my guides.

Gissele: Mm-hmm. Love that.

And so unexpected, right? Like, one of the things I lot I love about this journey that we are on, sort of like with this humanity is that often the most surprising and most beautiful things are unexpected, right?

You went in thinking you are gonna write this book on money, and you came out writing this book on love and the relationship with money, right? And so it’s, it’s been an amazing journey just to watch as a friend. For those of the listeners who haven’t yet gotten your book, tell us a little bit about kind of how is money even related to love?

Ghary: You know, I, I look at money as part, part and parcel to everything that we, we wish for or that we work to achieve in this lifetime.

Gissele: Hmm.

Ghary: And so it is part of what I call abundance. [00:04:00] It is everything. So you know, it’s, it’s to me the most important thing in life is to experience love in all of its various cues and shades. It starts with loving ourselves. And then when we have enough love within ourselves, we have the desire to express that outwardly to others.

Mm-hmm. And that’s the same as saying something like what is your passion? Mm-hmm. I believe that when we move in that direction and we move towards this place where we feel better about ourselves and feel more worthy, then everything that comes to us, right? Mm-hmm. So, so my feeling is that we come here to experience love and to express it to others.

And then of course, the second thing is just to have fun while we’re here, [00:05:00] you know?

Gissele: Yeah, definitely. I love what you said. I’m gonna pick up on just the, the sense of worth. I know in my experience you know, you know, thinking about worth. And there was a time in my life when I wasn’t really kind of out picturing kind of the, the kind of abundance that I was wanting.

And I remember going into a meditation and, you know, I, I kind of said to myself, out of nowhere, I don’t feel worthy to receive. So that was interesting because I didn’t think I believed that about myself. I didn’t ...

Please join me in welcoming my friend Ghary. Hi Ghary.

Ghary: Hi, Gissele. I’m so glad to be here.

Gissele: Mm-hmm. Love that.

Ghary: You know, I, I look at money as part, part and parcel to everything that we, we wish for or that we work to achieve in this lifetime.

Gissele: Hmm.

And then of course, the second thing is just to have fun while we’re here, [00:05:00] you know?

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Ep.63- Choosing Love in a Time of Great Division with Scott Stabile

Conversation with Scott

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Scott: Hello and welcome to the Love and Compassion podcast with Gissele. We believe that love and compassion have the power to heal our lives and our world.

Gissele: Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more amazing content. This year we’re creating an inspiring documentary called Courage to Love, the Power of Compassion, which explores the extraordinary stories of those who have chosen to do the unthinkable. Love and forgive those who have caused them deep harm.

Through their journeys, we will uncover the profound impact of forgiveness, not only to those offering it, but also those receiving it. we’ll hear from experts who will explore whether love and reconciliation are part of our human nature and how we can bridge divides with those we disagree with.

We are launching a fundraising campaign in March, offering incredible perks to our supporters. If you’re interested in our documentary, know somebody whose story should be featured, or would like to contribute financially, stay tuned. Speaking of divided, [00:01:00] today’s topic is about how to love others during divided times. Our guest today is Scott Stabile. He is a Breathwork Facilitator.

and author of the acclaimed motivational memoir, Big Love, The Undeniable Joy of Following Your Heart, the short prose collection, Enough As You Are, and the inspirational art book, Just Love.

A passionate love advocate, Scott is a compassionate and soulful storyteller, unafraid to dive deep into the human experience. Through his books, talks, personal empowerment workshops, and sub stack newsletter, Scott invites us to choose love even in the darkest times. to fully embrace our messy, beautiful selves.

He’s not just a teacher. He’s a fellow traveler navigating the hard, sacred work of being human. Please join me in welcoming Scott. Hi, Scott.

Scott: Hi [00:02:00] Gissele.

Gissele: I’m so

excited to have this chat, it feels like if we’re just living in such a divided world, it feels like we’re almost living in two separate worlds of people that are wanting to love and have compassion.

And then this other group that is maybe struggling with that. And it feels like we’re more divided than ever. I was wondering if you could start by telling the audience how you got into the work of love.

Scott: How did

I get into the work of love? I mean, I would say the most Honest answer is I was in a cult in the in the Bay Area in the 90s.

In my early 20s, I got involved with a spiritual teacher and a spiritual community. And the, you know, the teachings from my former guru were, you know, love, unconditional love, unconditional friendship. It didn’t end up turning out that [00:03:00] way when, I mean, it ended in a very dark way, which I won’t go into right now.

But when I reflect back on those times, I was really consumed with enlightenment in the possibility of becoming enlightened. That’s what I cared about the most. And what I saw as the path to enlightenment was love. and compassion and forgiveness and all of these beautiful energies that we know when we’re engaging with those energies we feel so much better.

And what I came to discover when I decided that I didn’t want to be a part of this community anymore and that when I was going to let go of chasing enlightenment, when I realized it’s not something that I could achieve, that’s not how enlightenment works. That I still felt called to be as loving as possible and as compassionate as possible.

Nothing, nothing changed about me other than my drive to become enlightened, which only created for me a lot of suffering and misery, [00:04:00] honestly. And when I could let go of that, I was able to just bring more acceptance to who I was and who I am in the moment, rather than needing to be a more evolved version of myself.

So that’s what really started me. Really seeing the healing power of love in our lives and really committing to being directed by that energy as much as possible because and it’s only because it’s not because I’m some selfless Buddha. It’s because it feels good to love and we know that it feels good to offer compassion to others.

It feels good to forgive all of these things. Things for me are the most beautiful way to feel, and I want to feel good, you know, as often as I can. So this is the path that I’ve chosen to create that possibility.

Gissele: I said so many powerful things. The first thing I want to tackle is I have found in my experience that there are many groups that kind of co opt the whole love and [00:05:00] compassion piece and use it for their own, it’s, it’s very similar to the whole concept of God and religion and, and how some of these messages are co opted for their own.

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