
S3.E4 - Elektra
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05/24/23 • 81 min
Listen Up Casuals! Welcome to a show for the casual fan. We break down your favorite comic book shows and movies and compare them to the comics they are based on. Did they nail it? What was different? Did we love it or hate it? Tune in to find out!
On this episode we talk about another character near and dear to Rocco's heart, Elektra! We talked Daredevil in S1 and we thought it was about time we talked about his counterpart. This season has been dubbed LUC Dark as we are talking all about your favorite vigilantes, assassins, sorcerers and more!
INTRO
What are you reading?
NEWS
- The Marvels
- Kraven rated R & details
- The Flash trailer 2
- Mangold Swamp Thing
- Penguin teaser
- Creature Commandos cast
- Blue Beetle ongoing SEPT
- Brzrkr: Poetry of Madness
See it or skip it?
COMMERCIAL
Character Origin in Comics
- First Appearance - Daredevil #168 (1964) Frank Miller introduces Marvel’s deadliest assassin. In a former lifetime she was a woman of privilege, a disciplined student of martial arts. But after her father’s death, Elektra focused solely on violence, masking her grief with rage
- Daredevil: The Man Without Fear #3 (1993) While students at Columbia, a Greek heiress and a blind law student fall hard for each other- and embrace the danger of young, reckless love.
- Daredevil #181 (1981) One of Frank Miller’s most famed Daredevil issues. Elektra and Bullseye engage in a ferocious battle. The death of Elektra.
- Daredevil #190 (1982) The Hand, an occult clan of ninjas, resurrects Elektra for their own nefarious means. Once she was a disciple of their shadowy order is she now The Hand’s greatest weapon? Elektra’s abilities take a supernatural turn.
- Elektra #1 (1996) first time having her own run.
Current Status in Comics
- Ongoing as Lady Daredevil, Queen of the Fist and Daredevil’s wife in current Daredevil ongoing run by Zdarsky. In current Daredevil, Matt and Elektra go on a quest with The Fist, enemy of The Hand to take The Hand down once and for all. Matt and Elektra are married and take on titles of Kind and Queen of The Fist. Elektra’s new alter ego as Lady Daredevil. This run continues to collide with current The Punisher run as Frank is High Slayer of The Hand.
CHARACTER DISCUSSION
Daredevil (2003)
- Jennifer Garner cast
Elektra (2005)
- Jennifer Garner reprises her role in a generally maligned movie
Netflix’s Daredevil Season 2 (2015) & Defenders (2017)
- Élodie Yung portrays Elektra back closer to her comic book origins
- Élodie Yung reprises her role as the villain w/ The Hand
Daredevil: Born Again? (2024)
- Bringing in Elektra?
Thunderbolts? (2024)
- Brief stint with the Thunderbolts in the comics.
CLOSE
Listen Up Casuals! Welcome to a show for the casual fan. We break down your favorite comic book shows and movies and compare them to the comics they are based on. Did they nail it? What was different? Did we love it or hate it? Tune in to find out!
On this episode we talk about another character near and dear to Rocco's heart, Elektra! We talked Daredevil in S1 and we thought it was about time we talked about his counterpart. This season has been dubbed LUC Dark as we are talking all about your favorite vigilantes, assassins, sorcerers and more!
INTRO
What are you reading?
NEWS
- The Marvels
- Kraven rated R & details
- The Flash trailer 2
- Mangold Swamp Thing
- Penguin teaser
- Creature Commandos cast
- Blue Beetle ongoing SEPT
- Brzrkr: Poetry of Madness
See it or skip it?
COMMERCIAL
Character Origin in Comics
- First Appearance - Daredevil #168 (1964) Frank Miller introduces Marvel’s deadliest assassin. In a former lifetime she was a woman of privilege, a disciplined student of martial arts. But after her father’s death, Elektra focused solely on violence, masking her grief with rage
- Daredevil: The Man Without Fear #3 (1993) While students at Columbia, a Greek heiress and a blind law student fall hard for each other- and embrace the danger of young, reckless love.
- Daredevil #181 (1981) One of Frank Miller’s most famed Daredevil issues. Elektra and Bullseye engage in a ferocious battle. The death of Elektra.
- Daredevil #190 (1982) The Hand, an occult clan of ninjas, resurrects Elektra for their own nefarious means. Once she was a disciple of their shadowy order is she now The Hand’s greatest weapon? Elektra’s abilities take a supernatural turn.
- Elektra #1 (1996) first time having her own run.
Current Status in Comics
- Ongoing as Lady Daredevil, Queen of the Fist and Daredevil’s wife in current Daredevil ongoing run by Zdarsky. In current Daredevil, Matt and Elektra go on a quest with The Fist, enemy of The Hand to take The Hand down once and for all. Matt and Elektra are married and take on titles of Kind and Queen of The Fist. Elektra’s new alter ego as Lady Daredevil. This run continues to collide with current The Punisher run as Frank is High Slayer of The Hand.
CHARACTER DISCUSSION
Daredevil (2003)
- Jennifer Garner cast
Elektra (2005)
- Jennifer Garner reprises her role in a generally maligned movie
Netflix’s Daredevil Season 2 (2015) & Defenders (2017)
- Élodie Yung portrays Elektra back closer to her comic book origins
- Élodie Yung reprises her role as the villain w/ The Hand
Daredevil: Born Again? (2024)
- Bringing in Elektra?
Thunderbolts? (2024)
- Brief stint with the Thunderbolts in the comics.
CLOSE
Previous Episode

S3.E3 - Wolverine
Listen Up Casuals! Welcome to a show for the casual fan. We break down your favorite comic book shows and movies and compare them to the comics they are based on. Did they nail it? What was different? Did we love it or hate it? Tune in to find out!
We are back with a brand new episode of Listen Up Casuals! This season has been dubbed LUC Dark as we are talking all about your favorite vigilantes, assassins, sorcerers and more! This week Rocco and Chris tackle everyone's favorite cigar smoking Canadian Mutant, WOLVERINE!!
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INTRO
What are you reading?
Jonathan Majors discussion
NEWS
- Liv Tyler back for Cap 4
- Loki 2 rumored for end of Summer/September
- Peter Weller joins Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur
- Secret Invasion 6/21
- Clayface rumored for The Batman 2
- Titans returns 4/13
- Stargirl/Titans xover
- Jaxxon one shot
COMMERCIAL
CHARACTER DISCUSSION
Character Origin in Comics
- Avengers #66 - first adamantium (1969)
- FOOM Magazine #2 (1973) first true? Andy Olsen
- Incredible Hulk #180/#181 - cameo and FA (1974) *He was created by Marvel editor-in-chief Roy Thomas, writer Len Wein, and Marvel art director John Romita Sr. Romita designed the character's costume, but the character was first drawn for publication by Herb Trimpe.
- Giant-Size X-Men #1 (1975)
- Wolverine #1 (1982) Claremont/Miller FIRST SOLO
- Wolverine #1 (1988) Claremont/Buscema FIRST ONGOING
- Wolverine The Origin #1 (2001) Quesada/Jenkins
- NYX #3 (2004) - first X-23; first true appearance as Laura Kinney in X-Men Evolution TV 2003.
- Wolverine: Origins #10 (2007) 1st Daken son of Wolverine and Itsu. Quesada/Way
- Wolverine #66 (2008) 1st Old Man Logan. McNiven/Millar
- Current State in Comics
- Ben Percy (2020)
Movies/TV and more
- X-Men TAS
- X-Men films
- Wolverine films
- Deadpool 3
Other Media
- Wolverine and the X-Men animated
- The Long Night (podcast) Ben Percy
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Next Episode

S3.E5 - Constantine
Listen Up Casuals! Welcome to a show for the casual fan. We break down your favorite comic book shows and movies and compare them to the comics they are based on. Did they nail it? What was different? Did we love it or hate it? Tune in to find out!
Abra cadabra! Rocco and Chris are back and we are talking all about everyone's favorite cynical, chain smoking sorcerer, John Constantine. Tune in as we talk about his comic book origins, animated and live action appearances, and more! Welcome to LUC Dark.
INTRO
FCBD?
What are you reading?
NEWS
- Jim Lee promoted
- Krypto in Superman Legacy
- JSA members get their own minis
- DC Knight Terrors
- McFarlane Toys Gold Label Superman Unchained patina version -10k qty
- Marvel Star Wars xover event Dark Droids
- Daredevil Reborn to be affected by strike? Blade production halted.
- F4 castings?
- Midnight Suns P6?
COMMERCIAL
Character Origin in Comics
Swamp Thing #37 (1985) - created by Alan Moore, Steve Bissette, and John Totleben
Runs
Hellblazer (1988- 2013) 300 issues
Justice League Dark (2011)
Constantine (2013)
Constantine: The Hellblazer (2015)
The Hellblazer: Rebirth (2016)
Current Status in Comics
The Sandman Universe Presents: Hellblazer (2019) - one-shot
John Constantine: Hellblazer (2019) - set in Sandman Universe - 12 issues
Hellblazer: Rise and Fall (2020) Tom Taylor - Black Label
Swamp Thing: Green Hell (2022-2023)
CHARACTER DISCUSSION
Keanu
- Constantine (2005)
- Newly announced sequel
Matt Ryan
- NBC show (2014)
- Arrowverse - Arrow (4th season), Legends of Tomorrow (3rd season and became regular on 4th)
- DC Animated movies
- Justice League Dark (2017)
- City of Demons (2018)
- JLD: Apokolips War (2020)
- The House of Mystery (2022)
- Harley Quinn S3E5 - “It’s a Swamp Thing”
Honorable Mentions
- The Sandman (Netflix) - Johanna Constantine and her identically named ancestor appear in The Sandman, both portrayed by Jenna Coleman
- John Constantine appears in The Sandman audio drama episode "Dream A Little Dream of Me", voiced by Taron Egerton.
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