
74 // Building Your Career Using Product Management Tools with Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts
11/30/21 • 47 min
Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts join me again, but this time to talk about career development using PM tools and mindsets. Together they host Path into Product, a podcast for college students or professionals considering a career as a product manager but don't know where to start. Both Aaron and Ash are currently working as Product Managers at Weave Communications and have previous experience working with and in learning design environments.
Today we discuss:
- Building your career through curiosity, experimentation, and data collection
- Examples and stories of using product management tools for personal development
- The importance of reflection and giving yourself space to be wrong
- Using product management prioritization principles in career decisions
Resources
- Path into Product Podcast - https://anchor.fm/pathintoproduct
- Design Your Life (Book): https://designingyour.life/the-book/
- Design Your Worklife (Book Review Podcast Episode): https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/episodes/8659877
- Aaron’s article, “Want to be a Product Manager in Tech? Study the Humanities”: https://medium.com/@aaron.airmet/want-to-be-a-product-manager-in-tech-study-the-humanities-4ff169d9d0e6
- The Proximity Principle (Book): https://www.ramseysolutions.com/store/books/the-proximity-principle-by-ken-coleman
- Borrowing Brilliance (Book): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/304339/borrowing-brilliance-by-david-kord-murray/
- How Will You Measure Your Life? (Book): https://claytonchristensen.com/books/how-will-you-measure-your-life/
- Measure What Matters (Book): https://www.whatmatters.com/the-book/
- Linchpin (Book): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00354Y9ZU/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i5
- Way of the Peaceful Warrior (Book): https://www.peacefulwarrior.com/way-of-the-peaceful-warrior/
Join the conversation on the LX Leader LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/learning-experience-leader-podcast
Support the showAaron Airmet and Ash Roberts join me again, but this time to talk about career development using PM tools and mindsets. Together they host Path into Product, a podcast for college students or professionals considering a career as a product manager but don't know where to start. Both Aaron and Ash are currently working as Product Managers at Weave Communications and have previous experience working with and in learning design environments.
Today we discuss:
- Building your career through curiosity, experimentation, and data collection
- Examples and stories of using product management tools for personal development
- The importance of reflection and giving yourself space to be wrong
- Using product management prioritization principles in career decisions
Resources
- Path into Product Podcast - https://anchor.fm/pathintoproduct
- Design Your Life (Book): https://designingyour.life/the-book/
- Design Your Worklife (Book Review Podcast Episode): https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/episodes/8659877
- Aaron’s article, “Want to be a Product Manager in Tech? Study the Humanities”: https://medium.com/@aaron.airmet/want-to-be-a-product-manager-in-tech-study-the-humanities-4ff169d9d0e6
- The Proximity Principle (Book): https://www.ramseysolutions.com/store/books/the-proximity-principle-by-ken-coleman
- Borrowing Brilliance (Book): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/304339/borrowing-brilliance-by-david-kord-murray/
- How Will You Measure Your Life? (Book): https://claytonchristensen.com/books/how-will-you-measure-your-life/
- Measure What Matters (Book): https://www.whatmatters.com/the-book/
- Linchpin (Book): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00354Y9ZU/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i5
- Way of the Peaceful Warrior (Book): https://www.peacefulwarrior.com/way-of-the-peaceful-warrior/
Join the conversation on the LX Leader LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/learning-experience-leader-podcast
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73 // A Product Manager Mindset with Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts
Today’s guests are Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts. Together they host Path into Product, a podcast for college students or professionals considering a career as a product manager but don't know where to start. Both Aaron and Ash are currently working as Product Managers at Weave Communications and have previous experience working with and in learning design environments.
Today we discuss:
- Different ways of defining product management
- Frameworks and mindsets instructional designers can utilize to build better learning solutions
- Curiosity, ruthless prioritization, and being a partner rather than an order taker
- Measurement in product and navigating the constraints to make an impact
Resources
- Path into Product (Podcast) - hosted by Aaron and Ash - https://anchor.fm/pathintoproduct
- Borrowing Brilliance (Book) - https://www.amazon.com/Borrowing-Brilliance-Business-Innovation-Building/dp/1592405800
Join the conversation on the LX Leader pages:
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Bonus: Measuring the Outcomes of Learning Programs
Today's show is a solo episode in which Greg gives an audio version of a mini-research study he conducted this year.
Check out the article here, and don't miss all the resources listed at the end!
https://uxdesign.cc/solving-the-greatest-challenge-to-measuring-organizational-outcomes-of-learning-programs-5e4677a78ca7
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