
How to Effectively Transition a Manager Into a Leader
11/28/23 • 60 min
#60 - If you are a manager looking to make the transition to a leader, or a company looking to add current managers to your leadership team, this episode is for you. Recently, CultureSmith Inc. has seen an increasing need for companies to shift their managers into leadership positions. But, he cautions against only positioning this change as a positive. We have deep identity ties to our roles that can be disrupted when we make a role change. Undergoing a process framed by emotional intelligence helps facilitate a smooth(er) transition. In this episode, Shane breaks down the process CultureSmith Inc. uses to help managers move in a meaningful way to a leadership role. He first shares the differences between the two roles (and how one isn’t better than the other), strategies to determine if a role change is a good fit, and finishes by walking through the 6-step process CultureSmith Inc. uses to make the transition. Then, we flip it to the home and talk about adolescent identity and the challenges of discovering who you are.
If you have follow-up questions, you can always reach us at [email protected].
To learn more about today’s topic, visit:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
Show Notes:
- [00:45] Fighting against the iCloud.
- [04:15] Breaking down this episode’s topic.
- [09:00] When would a company want to help a manager become a leader?
- [12:15] Demographic shifts in the workforce and the need for leaders.
- [17:45] What to do if someone wants to be a leader but the company doesn’t think it’s the right choice.
- [21:15] The process to take someone from manager to leader.
- [24:45] The 3 phases required to shift someone’s identity.
- [34:45] How the Cognitive Colours affect the shift from manager to leader.
- [41:15] Warrior vs diplomat.
- [44:35] Managing your personal identity as your shift to leader.
- [46:45] Turning this to the home, a deep dive into the challenges with adolescent identity.
Mentioned in this Episode:
- First part of this series: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-key-distinction-between-leaders-and-managers/id1647450164
- CultureSmith Inc.: https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
- Shane Wallace on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
- Morgan Berna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-berna/
#60 - If you are a manager looking to make the transition to a leader, or a company looking to add current managers to your leadership team, this episode is for you. Recently, CultureSmith Inc. has seen an increasing need for companies to shift their managers into leadership positions. But, he cautions against only positioning this change as a positive. We have deep identity ties to our roles that can be disrupted when we make a role change. Undergoing a process framed by emotional intelligence helps facilitate a smooth(er) transition. In this episode, Shane breaks down the process CultureSmith Inc. uses to help managers move in a meaningful way to a leadership role. He first shares the differences between the two roles (and how one isn’t better than the other), strategies to determine if a role change is a good fit, and finishes by walking through the 6-step process CultureSmith Inc. uses to make the transition. Then, we flip it to the home and talk about adolescent identity and the challenges of discovering who you are.
If you have follow-up questions, you can always reach us at [email protected].
To learn more about today’s topic, visit:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
Show Notes:
- [00:45] Fighting against the iCloud.
- [04:15] Breaking down this episode’s topic.
- [09:00] When would a company want to help a manager become a leader?
- [12:15] Demographic shifts in the workforce and the need for leaders.
- [17:45] What to do if someone wants to be a leader but the company doesn’t think it’s the right choice.
- [21:15] The process to take someone from manager to leader.
- [24:45] The 3 phases required to shift someone’s identity.
- [34:45] How the Cognitive Colours affect the shift from manager to leader.
- [41:15] Warrior vs diplomat.
- [44:35] Managing your personal identity as your shift to leader.
- [46:45] Turning this to the home, a deep dive into the challenges with adolescent identity.
Mentioned in this Episode:
- First part of this series: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-key-distinction-between-leaders-and-managers/id1647450164
- CultureSmith Inc.: https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
- Shane Wallace on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
- Morgan Berna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-berna/
Previous Episode

The Key Distinction Between Leaders and Managers
#59 - There’s this perception that anyone who wants to be a leader needs to be a manager. Or that managers naturally will become leaders. In this episode, Shane breaks down the reality of these two distinct roles and why they don’t exist on a linear trajectory. Shane explains the method CultureSmith Inc. uses to identify leadership and management traits in employees and how they help companies fill their leadership gaps. On the home front, Shane answers the question, “is there such thing as a born leader?” If you’re unsure which roles you need at your organization, or which role is right for you, this episode is a must-listen.
If you have follow-up questions, you can always reach us at [email protected].
To learn more about today’s topic, visit:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
Show Notes:
- [00:30] Shane doesn’t have a cozy season.
- [02:00] Personalities and falling into misinformation funnels.
- [07:00] Getting employees to make an emotional investment in a company.
- [15:00] Into today’s topic: distinguishing between managers and leaders.
- [19:15] You might not want to be a leader.
- [22:00] Why delegation can be such a challenge for employees moving to new roles.
- [24:00] Common misconceptions between the two roles.
- [27:40] Does management and leadership exist on a spectrum?
- [30:00] Are certain Cognitive Colours more present in management vs leadership and vice versa?
- [36:00] What can companies do to notice emerging leaders better?
- [41:00] Should people be shifting between leadership and management?
- [47:00] How does this apply in the home?
- [51:00] Is there such thing as a “born leader?”
Mentioned in this Episode:
- Armchair Expert episode: https://armchairexpertpod.com/pods/dan-ariely
- CultureSmith Inc.: https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
- Shane Wallace on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
- Morgan Berna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-berna/
Next Episode

How to Perform a Transformational 360 Review
#61 - If you’ve been listening for some time, you’ve likely heard Shane mention the enormous impact a 360 review had on his life and career. But, what we haven’t discussed is how these reviews are performed. This episode breaks that process down. First, we talk about a negative podcast review we got (this review was removed by the poster before this episode aired) as an example of feedback. Then, we transition into the role of 360 reviews and why they’re a crucial way for leaders to get feedback. Shane explains what a 360 review is, why they are important to do, how to tell when it isn’t appropriate, and the common challenges companies face when doing these reviews. Then, we flip it to the home and talk about the synergy created when leaders are reviewed both at their work and as parents.
If you have follow-up questions, you can always reach us at [email protected].
To learn more about today’s topic, visit:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
Show Notes:
- [00:40] A discussion around reviews and providing effective feedback.
- [02:45] Using feedback as punishment.
- [08:00] Why CultureSmith Inc. insists that behavioural frameworks are connected to emotion.
- [13:00] What is a 360 review?
- [14:50] Why a 360 is so important to do.
- [20:00] When a 360 review is not appropriate.
- [25:40] Common challenges companies face when doing these reviews.
- [28:00] Who should request the 360 review?
- [34:15] The steps Shane uses to run a 360 review with a client.
- [38:00] Why CultureSmith Inc. uses sensory questions (and what that means).
- [41:00] How our Cognitive Colours affect us both as reviewers and reviewees.
- [52:30] Similarities and differences between 360 reviews in the workplace and at home.
- [58:40] Challenges with trying this in both environments.
- [1:00:30] Key takeaways from this episode.
Mentioned in this Episode:
- CultureSmith Inc.: https://www.culturesmithinc.com/
- Shane Wallace on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanewallaceculturesmith/
- Morgan Berna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-berna/
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