Talking China in the Global South with Dawn Murphy
05/22/23 • 83 min
On this episode, Anita interviews Dawn Murphy, an Associate Professor of National Security Strategy at the US National War College, specializing in research on China and the Global South. We talk about China’s Belt and Road Project, its relationships in the Middle East, and China’s use of multilateral organizations.
We begin the episode by discussing the recent Turkish elections, where hopes were high for the opposition to oust the autocratic President Erdogan. As the country heads to a runoff, what are the odds of the opposition succeeding?
Biden attended the G7 meeting in Japan but cut the rest of the trip short to deal with the debt crisis at home. What does this say about US commitments in the Pacific and the confidence of these nations in dealing with the United States?
Topics Discussed in this Episode
- 00:00 Anita takes on Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
- 04:00 Turkish elections
- 19:00 G7 Meeting in Hiroshima and US Debt Crisis Distraction
- 36:00 Interview with Dawn Murphy: China and the Global South
Articles and Resources Mentioned in Episode
Turkish Elections
- Four Takeaways From Turkey’s Nail-Biting Presidential Election (NY Times)
- Erdogan triumphed by vowing to Make Turkey Great Again (WaPo)
- Here’s How to Read Turkey’s Election Results—So Far (Council of Foreign Relations)
G7 Meeting and US Debt Crisis Distraction
- Can the West win over the rest of the world? (The Economist)
- The debt ceiling crisis is distracting Biden from his geopolitical agenda (Financial Times)
- To Counter China, G7 Countries Borrow Its Economic Playbook (NY Times)
Talking China in the Global South with Dawn Murphy
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On this episode, Anita interviews Dawn Murphy, an Associate Professor of National Security Strategy at the US National War College, specializing in research on China and the Global South. We talk about China’s Belt and Road Project, its relationships in the Middle East, and China’s use of multilateral organizations.
We begin the episode by discussing the recent Turkish elections, where hopes were high for the opposition to oust the autocratic President Erdogan. As the country heads to a runoff, what are the odds of the opposition succeeding?
Biden attended the G7 meeting in Japan but cut the rest of the trip short to deal with the debt crisis at home. What does this say about US commitments in the Pacific and the confidence of these nations in dealing with the United States?
Topics Discussed in this Episode
- 00:00 Anita takes on Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
- 04:00 Turkish elections
- 19:00 G7 Meeting in Hiroshima and US Debt Crisis Distraction
- 36:00 Interview with Dawn Murphy: China and the Global South
Articles and Resources Mentioned in Episode
Turkish Elections
- Four Takeaways From Turkey’s Nail-Biting Presidential Election (NY Times)
- Erdogan triumphed by vowing to Make Turkey Great Again (WaPo)
- Here’s How to Read Turkey’s Election Results—So Far (Council of Foreign Relations)
G7 Meeting and US Debt Crisis Distraction
- Can the West win over the rest of the world? (The Economist)
- The debt ceiling crisis is distracting Biden from his geopolitical agenda (Financial Times)
- To Counter China, G7 Countries Borrow Its Economic Playbook (NY Times)
Talking China in the Global South with Dawn Murphy
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Previous Episode
US-South Korea Summit, Sudan Crisis, and the New Washington Consensus
On this episode, we begin with South Korea’s President Yoon Suk Yeol’s 6-day state visit to the United States. South Koreans have become increasingly concerned about the nuclear threat from North Korea. We discuss if South Korea got the security guarantees they desired. We also look at other key issues in the US-South Korea relationship.
Fierce fighting in Sudan has been capturing headlines. But what are they fighting about? We go over the key actors, what is at stake, and why Americans should care about this conflict.
Finally, we introduce a new segment: Changing Tides, where we read a book, set of articles, or in today’s case, speeches that are either changing the world or reflecting on how the world is changing. Today, we discuss two recent foreign policy speeches by the Biden administration that were given in recent days. That of Janet Yellen on economic policy towards China and Jake Sullivan on Biden’s foreign policy for the middle class.
Topics Discussed in this Episode
- 04:50 - U.S.-South Korea Summit
- 30:45 - Crisis in Sudan
- 49:30 Changing Tides: Discussion of the Biden Administration’s "new" Washington Consensus and foreign policy for the middle class
Articles and Resources Mentioned in Episode
U.S.-South Korea Summit
- South Korea has America in its face and China breathing down its neck (The Economist)
- America’s Ironclad Alliance With South Korea Is a Touch Rusty (Foreign Policy)
- After Warmth From Biden, South Korea’s Leader Faces a Different Tune at Home (NY Times)
Crisis in Sudan
- In Sudan, a power struggle between rival armed forces turns violent (Vox)
- What’s behind the fighting in Sudan, and what is at stake? (WaPo)
- United States Says Wagner Has Quietly Picked Sides in Sudan (NY Times)
Changing Tides: Discussing the ‘new’ Washington Consensus and "foreign policy for the middle class"
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The China-Russia Relationship with Deborah Larson
On this episode, I speak with Deborah Larson, a research professor at the University of California, Los Angeles. As a former student of hers, while undertaking my Ph.D. at UCLA, I found her research on Russia’s leaders very insightful. More recently, she has been writing about the China - Russia relationship, which we discuss. In particular, we look at what China gets from the relationship, how far it will go to support Russia in Ukraine, and how Russia avoids being the little brother in the strategic partnership.
We begin the episode delving into the most recent developments in the Russia - Ukraine war, including speculation on Ukraine’s future counteroffensive, the impact of the F-16s now being provided to Ukraine, and possible NATO membership.
El Salvador’s president has become the latest authoritarian-leaning darling of the Right in the US. We discuss why he has received so much praise from the likes of Tucker Carlson, Michael Flynn, and Roger Stone. Why is he so popular at home and abroad, and what are the consequences of the steady dismantling of democracy in the country?
Topics Discussed in this Episode
- 05:20 - Russia-Ukraine Update
- 32: 55 - The U.S. Right’s New Darling: El Salvador’s Nayib Bukele
- 50:40 - Interview with Deborah Larson: Russia-China Relations
Articles and Resources Mentioned in Episode
Russia-Ukraine Update
- Ukraine’s Offensive and its Meaning for the War (Michael Koffman; War on the Rocks)
- Two Weeks at the Front in Ukraine (The New Yorker)
- To Protect Europe, Let Ukraine Join NATO—Right Now (Foreign Affairs)
- Why It’s Not a Good Idea for Ukraine to Join NATO Now (Slate)
- ‘Stream’ and ‘Torch’: the Gazprom-backed militias fighting in Ukraine (FT)
The U.S. Right’s New Darling: El Salvador’s Nayib Bukele
- Meet the MAGA movement’s new favorite autocrat (Vox)
- El Salvador’s authoritarian president is becoming a regional role model (The Economist)
Interview with Deborah Larson: Russia-China Relations
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Kellogg's Global Politics - Talking China in the Global South with Dawn Murphy
Transcript
Anita Kellogg: [00:00:00] Welcome to Kellogg's Global Politics, a podcast on current events in US foreign policy and international affairs. My name is Dr. Anita Kellogg, an international relation scholar specializing in the relationship between economics and national security. I'm here with my co-host, Ryan Kellogg, an expert in energy investment and policy.
Ryan Kellogg: Thanks and glad to be here. So this is episode 34, and we're recording this on May
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