Plans Change, Pal: A Conversation with Henry Bernstein (IOT 10)

In Chronicles, Dylan writes of a mid-1950’s encounter with Gorgeous George, “Suddenly, the doors burst open and in came Gorgeous George himself. He roared in like the storm, didn’t go through the backstage area, he came right through the lobby of the building and he seemed like forty men. It was Gorgeous George, in all his magnificent glory with all the lightening and vitality you’d expect” (44). Dylan describes the troupe accompanying Gorgeous George – the coterie of wrestlers, valets, women with roses – and seems impressed with the spectacle and energy of the scene. He continues, “He brushed by the makeshift stage and glanced towards the sound of the music. He didn’t break stride, but he looked at me, eyes flashing with moonshine. He winked and seemed to mouth, “You’re making it come alive” (44). Real, fabricated, or imagined, this encounter reveals something about Dylan’s approach to performance. In this episode, my good friend, Dylanologist, and fellow January baby, Henry Bernstein expands the reach of this show’s focus by discussing the parallels between Bob Dylan and professional wrestling. From babyfaces to heels to the spectacle of performance and Dylan’s influence on professional wrestlers, Henry combines two of his loves to illustrate the depth and breadth of Dylan’s social and cultural influence.

Henry Bernstein is the host of the fantastic new(ish) Dylan podcast Songs of Experience: A Bob Dylan Podcast, which I highly recommend (link below). Through his encyclopedic knowledge, his enthusiasm for all things Dylan, and generous interviews, Henry is deepening our understanding of Dylan’s work one song at a time. When he’s not talking, posting, and texting about Dylan, seeing Dylan, or generally obsessing about Dylan, Henry works in Operations and Logistics for a Jewish Day School in Chicago. In addition to Dylan and wrestling, Henry’s great loves are his family, the Chicago White Sox, Superman, Star Trek, and Taylor Swift.

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• Bluesky: @hentrybernstein.bsky.social
• Songs Of Experience: https://www.youtube.com/@songsofbobdylan

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