
Rediscovering Spirituality with Nick Literski
08/07/23 • 53 min
Many conversations assume that LGBTQ people and religious people are two separate identity groups. There is a heteronormative religious culture that falsely claims that queer people can’t be religious or spiritual. Some queer people absolutely need to walk away from religion in order to heal and become whole, but others are seeking a spiritual path that is different from what they grew up with. Dr. Nick Literski joins Jen on today’s episode of In the Den to talk about how to rediscover a personal spirituality that is unique, expansive, and LGBTQ inclusive.
Special Guest:
Nicholas S. Literski, JD, PhD, is an Adjunct Senior Lecturer in Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and a professional spiritual guide. Nick holds a doctorate in Depth Psychology with Emphasis in Jungian and Archetypal Studies from Pacifica Graduate Institute, as well as a master’s in Spiritual Guidance from Sofia University. Their research interests include in depth psychological reflections on spirituality, Paleolithic cave art, sexual orientation, and gender identity. Nick’s work has been published in the FARMS Review of Books on The Book of Mormon ; Psychological Perspectives: A Quarterly Journal of Jungian Thought;Immanence: The Journal of Applied Mythology, Legend, and Folklore ; Somatics Magazine-Journal of the Mind-Body Arts and Sciences ; and the recent compilation, The Reality of Fragmentation and the Yearning for Healing: Jungian Perspectives on Democracy, Power, and Illusion in Contemporary Politics . Their recent book, Method Infinite: Freemasonry and the Mormon Restoration , was published by Greg Kofford Books in 2022.
Links from the show:
- Five Steps to Rediscovering Spirituality as an LGBT Person: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/five-steps-to-rediscoveri_b_8373220
- Dr. Literski’s website: https://www.dancingancestors.com/
- Join MamaDragons today at www.mamadragons.org
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Many conversations assume that LGBTQ people and religious people are two separate identity groups. There is a heteronormative religious culture that falsely claims that queer people can’t be religious or spiritual. Some queer people absolutely need to walk away from religion in order to heal and become whole, but others are seeking a spiritual path that is different from what they grew up with. Dr. Nick Literski joins Jen on today’s episode of In the Den to talk about how to rediscover a personal spirituality that is unique, expansive, and LGBTQ inclusive.
Special Guest:
Nicholas S. Literski, JD, PhD, is an Adjunct Senior Lecturer in Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and a professional spiritual guide. Nick holds a doctorate in Depth Psychology with Emphasis in Jungian and Archetypal Studies from Pacifica Graduate Institute, as well as a master’s in Spiritual Guidance from Sofia University. Their research interests include in depth psychological reflections on spirituality, Paleolithic cave art, sexual orientation, and gender identity. Nick’s work has been published in the FARMS Review of Books on The Book of Mormon ; Psychological Perspectives: A Quarterly Journal of Jungian Thought;Immanence: The Journal of Applied Mythology, Legend, and Folklore ; Somatics Magazine-Journal of the Mind-Body Arts and Sciences ; and the recent compilation, The Reality of Fragmentation and the Yearning for Healing: Jungian Perspectives on Democracy, Power, and Illusion in Contemporary Politics . Their recent book, Method Infinite: Freemasonry and the Mormon Restoration , was published by Greg Kofford Books in 2022.
Links from the show:
- Five Steps to Rediscovering Spirituality as an LGBT Person: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/five-steps-to-rediscoveri_b_8373220
- Dr. Literski’s website: https://www.dancingancestors.com/
- Join MamaDragons today at www.mamadragons.org
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Special guests:
Marty McGuy is a drag king from Columbia, South Carolina. In Marty’s day job, he is committed to helping the quality of care and education of the children of South Carolina. Marty also ran an online DRAG Activity time during the pandemic on YouTube and Facebook weekly for his local LGBT+ Resource Center, The Harriet Hancock Center. Now they often volunteer for Charlotte Drag Story Hour for in person events. Marty also is a fierce advocate for Drag King visibility. They help host drag shows across Columbia, SC with his drag partner, Han D Mann, called Columbia Kings N’ Things.
Brandon U. Scott was a hairstylist for 21 years. When we all hit the brakes due to COVID-19, he decided to take on a second act in life and began the journey of becoming a Social Worker. He is currently starting his Senior year at University and plans to start their master’s degree program in May 2024. Brandon hopes to one day bring affirming care to LGBTQI communities in rural areas after obtaining his clinical license.
DeVida, the self proclaimed Broadway Belter of the Bible Belt is an education and mental health professional by day and a Broadway drag diva by night. DeVida is known for her live vocals, creative performances, and glamorous style. DeVida is a former Miss Gay NC America and Miss Charlotte Pride as well as a tireless community advocate. When not performing or working, DeVida is happy to be at home with her husband of twenty four years and their ten year old son.
Links from the show:
- Marty on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@martymcguydragking
- Marty on IG: https://www.instagram.com/martymcguydragking/?hl=en
- Kings n Things: https://www.tiktok.com/@colakingsnthings
- Devida on IG: https://www.instagram.com/livingdevidaloca/
- Devida on FB: https://www.facebook.com/livingdevidaloca
- Devida on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livingdevidaloca
- The Cardboard Castle: https://thecardboardcastle.net/
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Asexual (Ace) shared by Marie Mulling from Texas
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Demisexual shared by Amy Hutchisson
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In The Den with Mama Dragons - Rediscovering Spirituality with Nick Literski
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JEN: Hello and welcome. You are listening to In the Den with Mama Dragons . I’m your host, Jen. This podcast was created out of our desire to walk and talk with you through this journey of raising happy, healthy, and productive LGBTQ humans. We are so happy that you’re here with us.
For as long as I can remember, the conversations I heard held LGBTQ people as one group and religious people as another group -- two separate circles. There was something
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