
What is A2L Mitigation Going to Look Like? w/ Clifton B.
12/21/23 • 38 min
In this podcast, Bryan and Clifton discuss the upcoming transition to A2L refrigerants, like R-32 and R-454B, and what A2L mitigation is going to look like.
These mildly flammable refrigerants will be used in place of R-410A for residential air conditioning systems due to an HFC phase-down driven by legislation and international agreements. They explain what mitigation means with A2L systems - sensors will detect refrigerant leaks, and the system will shut off and turn on the blower fan to dissipate any leaked refrigerant. The mitigation helps minimize flammability risk.
They note the new A2L refrigerants contain no propane despite some misconceptions. The fundamentals of safe installation, service, and repair remain similar but will be absolutely required for A2Ls versus more loosely followed with previous refrigerants. Taking proper time and care is crucial. Bryan and Clifton then discuss the education, training, and resources available from ESCO Group to help contractors prepare for this transition.
Key topics covered:
- Upcoming transition to A2L refrigerants R-32 and R-454B
- Phase down of R-410A driven by legislation and international agreements
- Definition and purpose of mitigation used with A2L air conditioners
- Misconception that new refrigerants contain propane
- Fundamentals of safe installation and service remain similar but even more vital
- Taking the proper time and avoiding rushing is crucial for safety
- Education, training, and resources available from ESCO Group
- Preparing the HVAC industry for the refrigerant transition
- The yearly AHR Expo and HVAC Excellence Conference
You can learn more about ESCO Institute at https://www.escogroup.org/ and explore the HVACR Learning Network at https://hvacr.elearn.network/.
Learn more about the 5th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/Symposium24.
If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.”
Subscribe to our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@HVACS.
Check out our handy calculators HERE or on the HVAC School Mobile App (Google Play Store or App Store).
In this podcast, Bryan and Clifton discuss the upcoming transition to A2L refrigerants, like R-32 and R-454B, and what A2L mitigation is going to look like.
These mildly flammable refrigerants will be used in place of R-410A for residential air conditioning systems due to an HFC phase-down driven by legislation and international agreements. They explain what mitigation means with A2L systems - sensors will detect refrigerant leaks, and the system will shut off and turn on the blower fan to dissipate any leaked refrigerant. The mitigation helps minimize flammability risk.
They note the new A2L refrigerants contain no propane despite some misconceptions. The fundamentals of safe installation, service, and repair remain similar but will be absolutely required for A2Ls versus more loosely followed with previous refrigerants. Taking proper time and care is crucial. Bryan and Clifton then discuss the education, training, and resources available from ESCO Group to help contractors prepare for this transition.
Key topics covered:
- Upcoming transition to A2L refrigerants R-32 and R-454B
- Phase down of R-410A driven by legislation and international agreements
- Definition and purpose of mitigation used with A2L air conditioners
- Misconception that new refrigerants contain propane
- Fundamentals of safe installation and service remain similar but even more vital
- Taking the proper time and avoiding rushing is crucial for safety
- Education, training, and resources available from ESCO Group
- Preparing the HVAC industry for the refrigerant transition
- The yearly AHR Expo and HVAC Excellence Conference
You can learn more about ESCO Institute at https://www.escogroup.org/ and explore the HVACR Learning Network at https://hvacr.elearn.network/.
Learn more about the 5th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/Symposium24.
If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.”
Subscribe to our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@HVACS.
Check out our handy calculators HERE or on the HVAC School Mobile App (Google Play Store or App Store).
Previous Episode

Healthy Air Supplements vs. Pillars w/ Kevin Hart
Bryan and Kevin discuss indoor air quality solutions in terms of healthy air supplements vs. pillars of IAQ, drawing an analogy between IAQ supplements like electronic air cleaners and fitness supplements. They talk about why discussing these supplemental products can be controversial since many companies profit from selling them. However, the fundamentals of good IAQ - ventilation, filtration, and humidity control - are proven to work well, just as diet, exercise, and hydration promote good health.
Most contractors focus more conversations and training around supplemental IAQ products versus the fundamentals, which parallels how society embraces fitness supplements over proper diet and exercise. However, a growing group of homeowners want real solutions, and the fundamentals often solve problems better and with less risk than just adding devices. Measuring IAQ and using data-driven diagnoses lead to more targeted solutions, too.
The fitness analogy applies well - you don't jump to supplements first, and adding more supplements isn't always better or healthier. Dosage and application really matter. Contractors should consider focusing 80% on IAQ fundamentals over supplemental products to best serve customers.
Topics covered:
- Why discussing IAQ supplements is controversial
- Fundamentals of good IAQ: ventilation, filtration, humidity control
- Parallels between IAQ supplements and fitness supplements
- Reliance on and training around supplemental products versus fundamentals
- Growing consumer demand for real IAQ solutions
- Using IAQ monitoring and measurement for better solutions
- How having more supplements or devices isn't always better
- Dosage and proper application really matter
- Shifting contractor focus to 80% on IAQ fundamentals versus supplemental products
You can learn more about HAVEN products at https://haveniaq.com/ or become a HAVEN pro at https://pro.haveniaq.com/.
Learn more about the 5th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/Symposium24.
If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.”
Subscribe to our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@HVACS.
Check out our handy calculators HERE or on the HVAC School Mobile App (Google Play Store or App Store).
Next Episode

Solving & Preventing Oil Issues in Rack Refrigeration
In this HVAC podcast episode, hosts Bryan Orr and Matthew Taylor (refrigeration leader and trainer at Kalos Services) discuss oil management and considerations in supermarket refrigeration systems, with a focus on solving & preventing oil issues. They talk about the importance of stable system operation and how oil flows through both active and passive systems in these larger built-up racks.
Matthew explains that in a rack system, oil is actively separated and returned to the compressors through a dedicated system. However, not all oil gets captured this way, so the passive system of oil returning through the refrigeration cycle still occurs. Problems can arise in either system, leading to compressors locking out. Matthew stresses properly setting and regulating EPR valves to minimize load fluctuations that impact system stability.
Common issues covered include clogged oil separators, misadjusted or damaged oil controls, changes in suction pressure affecting oil flow, the impact of floating suction pressures, and troubleshooting overfilled compressors. Matthew offers tips like feeling the oil separator line temperature and using working racks as a guide when unsure of proper settings. The discussion highlights how poor defrost performance can indicate oil trapping issues.
Matthew and Bryan also cover:
- Active vs passive oil management in racks
- Setting EPR valves for stable operation
- Clogged oil separators and failed floats
- Suction pressure fluctuations disrupting oil flow
- Strategies for floating suction pressures
- Steps for readjusting oil controls
- Signs of oil trapping issues in the refrigeration cycle
- Using working racks to guide troubleshooting
Learn more about the 5th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/Symposium24.
If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.”
Subscribe to our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@HVACS.
Check out our handy calculators HERE or on the HVAC School Mobile App (Google Play Store or App Store).
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