
Wordle and the Web We Need
05/31/22 • 33 min
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Where is the internet we were promised? It feels like we’re dominated by megalithic, siloed platforms where users have little or no say over how their data is used and little recourse if they disagree, where direct interaction with users is seen as a bug to be fixed, and where art and creativity are just “content generation.”
But take a peek beyond those platforms and you can still find a thriving internet of millions who are empowered to control their own technology, art, and lives. Anil Dash, CEO of Glitch and an EFF board member, says this is where we start reclaiming the internet for individual agency, control, creativity, and connection to culture - especially among society’s most vulnerable and marginalized members.
Dash speaks with EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny O’Brien about building more humane and inclusive technology, and leveraging love of art and culture into grassroots movements for an internet that truly belongs to us all.
In this episode you’ll learn about:
- What past and current social justice movements can teach us about reclaiming the internet
- The importance of clearly understanding and describing what we want—and don’t want—from technology
- Energizing people in artistic and fandom communities to become activists for better technology
- Tech workers’ potential power over what their employers do
- How Wordle might be a window into a healthier web.
If you have any feedback on this episode, please email [email protected]. Please visit the site page at https://eff.org/pod210 where you’ll find resources – including links to important legal cases and research discussed in the podcast and a full transcript of the audio.
This podcast is supported by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's Program in Public Understanding of Science and Technology.
Music for How to Fix the Internet was created for us by Reed Mathis and Nat Keefe of BeatMower.
This podcast is licensed Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International, and includes the following music licensed Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported by their creators:
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/djlang59/61577
Get It - pop mix by J.Lang Feat: AnalogByNature & RJay
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/djlang59/59729
Probably Shouldn't by J.Lang
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/JeffSpeed68/56377
Smokey Eyes by Stefan Kartenberg
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/airtone/58703
commonGround by airtone
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Skill_Borrower/41751
Klaus by Skill_Borrower
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/NiGiD/62475
Chrome Cactus by Martijn de Boer (NiGiD)
Where is the internet we were promised? It feels like we’re dominated by megalithic, siloed platforms where users have little or no say over how their data is used and little recourse if they disagree, where direct interaction with users is seen as a bug to be fixed, and where art and creativity are just “content generation.”
But take a peek beyond those platforms and you can still find a thriving internet of millions who are empowered to control their own technology, art, and lives. Anil Dash, CEO of Glitch and an EFF board member, says this is where we start reclaiming the internet for individual agency, control, creativity, and connection to culture - especially among society’s most vulnerable and marginalized members.
Dash speaks with EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny O’Brien about building more humane and inclusive technology, and leveraging love of art and culture into grassroots movements for an internet that truly belongs to us all.
In this episode you’ll learn about:
- What past and current social justice movements can teach us about reclaiming the internet
- The importance of clearly understanding and describing what we want—and don’t want—from technology
- Energizing people in artistic and fandom communities to become activists for better technology
- Tech workers’ potential power over what their employers do
- How Wordle might be a window into a healthier web.
If you have any feedback on this episode, please email [email protected]. Please visit the site page at https://eff.org/pod210 where you’ll find resources – including links to important legal cases and research discussed in the podcast and a full transcript of the audio.
This podcast is supported by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's Program in Public Understanding of Science and Technology.
Music for How to Fix the Internet was created for us by Reed Mathis and Nat Keefe of BeatMower.
This podcast is licensed Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International, and includes the following music licensed Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported by their creators:
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/djlang59/61577
Get It - pop mix by J.Lang Feat: AnalogByNature & RJay
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/djlang59/59729
Probably Shouldn't by J.Lang
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/JeffSpeed68/56377
Smokey Eyes by Stefan Kartenberg
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/airtone/58703
commonGround by airtone
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Skill_Borrower/41751
Klaus by Skill_Borrower
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/NiGiD/62475
Chrome Cactus by Martijn de Boer (NiGiD)
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Securing the Vote
U.S. democracy is at an inflection point, and how we administer and verify our elections is more important than ever. From hanging chads to glitchy touchscreens to partisan disinformation, too many Americans worry that their votes won’t count and that election results aren’t trustworthy. It’s crucial that citizens have well-justified confidence in this pillar of our republic.
Technology can provide answers - but that doesn’t mean moving elections online. As president and CEO of the nonpartisan nonprofit Verified Voting, Pamela Smith helps lead the national fight to balance ballot accessibility with ballot security by advocating for paper trails, audits, and transparency wherever and however Americans cast votes.
On this episode of How to Fix the Internet, Pamela Smith joins EFF’s Cindy Cohn and Danny O’Brien to discuss hope for the future of democracy and the technology and best practices that will get us there.
In this episode you’ll learn about:
- Why voting online can never be like banking or shopping online
- What a “risk-limiting audit” is, and why no election should lack it
- Whether open-source software could be part of securing our votes
- Where to find reliable information about how your elections are conducted
If you have any feedback on this episode, please email [email protected]. Please visit the site page at https://eff.org/pod209 where you’ll find resources – including links to important legal cases and research discussed in the podcast and a full transcript of the audio.
Pamela Smith, President & CEO of Verified Voting, plays a national leadership role in safeguarding elections and building working alliances between advocates, election officials, and other stakeholders. Pam joined Verified Voting in 2004, and previously served as President from 2007-2017. She is a member of the National Task Force on Election Crises, a diverse cross-partisan group of more than 50 experts whose mission is to prevent and mitigate election crises by urging critical reforms. She provides information and public testimony on election security issues across the nation, including to Congress. Before her work in elections, she was a nonprofit executive for a Hispanic educational organization working on first language literacy and adult learning, and a small business and marketing consultant.
This podcast is supported by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's Program in Public Understanding of Science and Technology.
Music for How to Fix the Internet was created for us by Reed Mathis and Nat Keefe of BeatMower.
This podcast is licensed Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International, and includes the following music licensed Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported by their creators:
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Skill_Borrower/41751
Klaus by Skill_Borrower
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/airtone/58703
commonGround by airtone
http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/NiGiD/62475
Chrome Cactus by Martijn de Boer (NiGiD)
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It seems like everywhere we turn we see dystopian stories about technology’s impact on our lives and our futures — from tracking-based surveillance capitalism to street level government surveillance to the dominance of a few large platforms choking innovation to the growing pressure by authoritarian governments to control what we see and say — the landscape can feel bleak. Exposing and articulating these problems is important, but so is envisioning and then building a better future. That’s where our podcast comes in.
EFF's How to Fix the Internet podcast offers a better way forward. Through curious conversations with some of the leading minds in law and technology, we explore creative solutions to some of today’s biggest tech challenges.
After tens of thousands of listeners tuned in for our pilot mini-series last year, we are continuing the conversation by launching a full season. Listen today to become deeply informed on vital technology issues and join the movement working to build a better technological future.
Find the podcast via RSS, Stitcher, TuneIn, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and Spotify. You can find an MP3 archive of all our episodes at the Internet Archive. Theme music by Nat Keefe of BeatMower.
EFF is deeply grateful for the support of the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's Program in Public Understanding of Science and Technology, without whom this podcast would not be possible.
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